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Every SCAMMING DATING SITE (However it exist other few good honest date sites Online also, that have low monthy subscriptions cost, with all included send as many messages as you want, no translation fees per letter, but all is included in the low monthly or quarterly, or yearly price etc, and free date sites exist honest few good ones, avoid pay by letter translation fee date sites, and date sites with low reputation or bad) is designed to cheat men out of their money Worker confess: (Authors approval to protect Online customers this were Published Online, its regards Every Scamming Online Date Sites): Updated Subject Line Above. "02-14-2012 04:24 PM I got scammed out of $3500 at these dating-marriage sites. Why does PAYPAL support these crooks? As far as I know, 100% of the women were being paid to write me letters and chat. I thought I was popular. I got 1000 letters. Every woman I tried to get serious with was a dead-end.....sometimes they just "became unavailable", and the excuses became so numerous, along with so many other lies I uncovered, that I figured the dating service is in on the whole scam. Here is a blog I found that supports my experience. Please note, English is his second language: This is from Estefano L. It is not only Amolatina, but every DATING SITE is designed to cheat men out of their money. I worked as a translator in one of these sites, and I CAN TELL you it is a fraud: Hundreds of men of United States of America, Canada and Europe are being fooled by hundreds of girls of Russia, Ukraine and Latin America, through the “DATING SITES” (AGENCIAS DE MATRIMONIO,in Spanish). Day after day, the number of tricked men increases, notwithstanding the warning of other men who know what is really happening in these sites. This denounce I am constructing is meant to be a warning against such trick. Read it carefully and collaborate with me in this denounce. The more persons you warn against that trick, the better. I want this warning to snowball so much as to frustrate it. Are you a fool? Why do you pay for a service which is nothing but a FRAUD? They offer the “opportunity to know beautiful girls through ON LINE MEETING”, but what do you get for your money? You think that you are chatting to a girl, where the one who is typing is a man or an old woman (named translator). This “translator” has been trained to fool you, that you spend your money in chatting, that you spend your money in “GIFTS”. The “DATING SITE” swears to be “ANTIFRAUD PROOF”, but they are constraining their girls to sign and video a written declaration that they get no pay for their photos being catalogued or their images being used in WEB CAM, which declaration is delusive. These “Dating sites” are named differently Russianlovematch, Hotrussianbrides, Amolatina, A foreign affair, Anastasia, etc. and have in common that more than 90% of their girls are apparently “beautiful and young”, as if they were “call girls” instead of “marriageable women”, Ukrainian and Latin American women who do not care if you are 90 years old, or if you are ugly, because their secret interest is fooling you into spending money in chatting and gifting them. These agencies induce slyly these girls, who are in want of one job, to partake in this trick. They are teamed up with bilingual persons, euphemized as “translators”. The translator (either male or female) is confided the task of beguiling men with a chat of coquetry while the young woman is supposed only to smile at the video camera. The more time the tricked men are in chat, the better. The more men the “translator” wiles concurrently, the better. Both woman and translator get a vague commission for it. The amount of this commission is unknown, but, for sure, risible, and this is maybe the worst. I worked in one of these agencies (in Medellin, Colombia), for almost one year (August-June, 2008-2009), and I know certainly that here girls worked without a covenant with their “managers” about this commission. They simply get one pay every 15 days for chat, which is rather capricious or arbitrary, and one commission for gifts. I will mention, as an example, the Sandgom’s case, the woman I teamed with for six months (from January to June of 2009). Her nickname was Sandgom. The Sandgom’s average was about 10 men daily. Every message in chat costs less than one dollar. The average of messages every man transmitted was about 100 in our 8 hours shift, which may amount to about $ 80. So, ten men chatting with us might have become an 800 dollars gain for the owner (or owners) of the “Dating Site” every day. How much of this gain was given to Sandgom? 15 dollars only, as an average. Notwithstanding, there were days in which she was told she had made nothing but 3 dollars in her 8 hours shift. As for the gifts, when one man orders flowers (or other false “gifts”, as candies, English lessons, and jewellery) for one woman, this one does not get the flowers but one little commission for them (about 10%). Of course, there are many lawsuits against the “Dating Sites”. How are they preventing themselves to be convicted? They force their ladies to sign and video a written declaration that they are in their respective agencies, neither for money nor for gifts, but for their wanting one husband, which declaration is completely false, except for a few women. Women relucting to sign such declaration are threatened to be unpaid for their chats. Dating chats are as lucrative as sex chats are. The difference is, beside the unreality of women being nakedly exhibited, that men in sex chats know it is a mere erotic play, whereas men in dating sites do not know that most of women are dissembling with them. “Translators” personate their teamers mainly when camera is off. When one woman is not able to come to “office”, the translator makes men to believe that they are chatting with her. There are cases, even, in which translators personate women who are not “working” for their agencies, women who, for whatever reason, have consented to the institution of their “profiles” and neglected to demand the removal of these ones. In December of 2008, I was told by the owner of the agency to log in to chat under the nicknames of some of these women. They did not know that we were personating them."
UA Dreams... Criminals: (Author has no objections this beeing posted, true testimonial, Author wants UAdreams as with all victims scamming Stop get money back, in Court, Scammers in Jail): Updated in Subject line Above. "#164856 by bauigel Thu May 09, 2013 6:04 am Dear All Yes, i was so silly to trust UA Dreams 5 years and i lost really big money. Now after getting a lot of information about the unserious work i want to warn everybody about this really bad agency.... and about Ukraine in general. I was more than 40 times in Ukraine and i can inform you, that NO agency there works seriously. I had hundreds of meetings and only about 5 % of the girls seemed to be serious, honest and adult enough. Especially at UA Dreams the most girls are much too young for relation. They are just at the agency to get presents. Girls from agency confirmed me this. And i just got the information from a former member, that the agency presses the girls to accept any meeting with men. And if the girl do not want, they get really upset and press the girls. So much, that the girl must even change her telephone number and living place... to hide from them. In addition the agency presses the girls not to speak English. Real words from a girl "The interpreter will kill me if i speak English". I recorded these words. In addition several girls coinfirmed me, that they are not allowed to meet the men without agency, even after first meeting. Because the agency wants to control everything. And i can tell you, that they also lie about the age of the girls. And one of the girls from this agency betrayed me by 50.000 €!!!!! The agency gives always the impression, that age and appearance do not matter. But when you can not find your soulmate because of age difference they claim, that you must look for elder girls..... And i can tell you, that i am 40, not ugly, i earn not bad money, engineer, was German Champion in sports, ... and so obviously no bad choice. Everybody shall make his opwn experience. But i can just warn you, that all Ukraine is a really bad place. All foreigners are just used as cash machine and everything is controlled by mafia. As i have proved documents about the betray of UA Dreams, i even think about claiming them in front of court in US. Result: Do not spend any $ on this agency!!!!! Go to another country.... Belarus..... Romania.... Bulgaria.. Russia...... it is much more honest place!!!! Ukraine is the most worse place in the world and you will never find your soulmate there. Very funny story at the end. UA Dreams had last week a big advertisement that they reached another marriage with their agency. (By the way, they have thousands of clients sh they should have a marriage every week...). But in the advertisement they tell, that the men met the girl not via agency. The man met the girl in private. And as thre girl was at the agency, the man was forced to pay the agency for interpreter....... It sounds like slavery that the man must pay compensation for the girl. GO AWAY FROM THIS AGENCY..... AND UKRAINE IN GENERAL. You want more information? w.ollendiek@web.de" (All information shown of course regards to all Uadreams sites as Uadreams.com with all their other extensions... like Uadreams.de and Uadreams.es etc, however will not say this in every post, enough show at start and end, same goes for all other scam date agencies with their websites meantioned etc): Added: 2015-01-05: Worker 2 of 3 from inside Uadreams now confess, and therefore shall be forgiven, this worker with those confessing is better people, why they confessed and left the scam date agencies with their websites, and exposed the evils, this is worker 2 of 3 workers of all listed here on this Blog their testimony, regarding the scam date agencies like Uadreams and many more is refered to, with their paid prodate girls and people working for agencies etc, worker confess: Uadreams (Uadreams.com) do not join Elenamodels (Elenamodels.com) reviews below. More Uadreams.com reviews: Tati Jacametch•11 days ago
Are you serious or are you really that naive? 99% of Ukrainian/Russian online dating sites are scams making money on naive hopeless foreigners. I used to work as a translator for one of such 'agencies'. You think you pay for a translation? What a joke. You TALK to the translators (some of them are men), not to the women. And translators earn like 0,0001% from your money, those agencies scam all of us: you, women & translators. Look at these positive 'reviews': they are all written in bad English with lots of mistakes because Ukrainian people who work for the agencies write them! If you are pressed into trusting someone - that's a red flag already! I'll give you some free advice - use russian social networks like vk.com or odnoklassniki.ru It's like facebook. Totally free and you meet real people with real photos. And by the way - nowadays ALL women from Ukraine speak at least basic English.
They will be so eager to talk to you that they will use googletranslate or find another way. Good luck!
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Sadly Uadreams agency scammers are scared of the truth of their scamming ways, they, Uadreams agency translate fee letter scam, desperately trying to hide so hard, so they, remove, report, many truthful honest reviews from Trustpilot etc, and let the fake positive reviews remains of Uadreams scam agency, of people who writes them in many cases themselves..., or paid actors or paid translators..., or paid, fake testimonials, people working for Uadreams Agency translation letter fee scam etc... ADDED HERE 2015-10-27: VITAL ALL PEOPLE WORLDWIDE, NEW INFO ABOUT UADREAMS: Remember regarding all screenshot links on this website or blogg, that after when you clicked on the screenshots links, you can then click on the opend new internet browser window screenshot picture with your right button on your computer mouse, and it will become bigger easier to see, then scroll it in your internet browser to see whole screenshot picture, this applies to all screenshots links listed on this website or blogg:
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"Peter Cunningham (Canada, at Trustpilot, very trustworthy, very honest person, it seams, and sadly because of that, as usually, his review got sadly removed, as many honest truthful ones, by Uadreams scam translation fee, scam agency, see screenshot Click here, but backup listed below, about Uadreams agency translation letter fee scam): "Lady #5242 Here's a new twist on an old scam, today I got two very different letters from the same lady in response to one letter I sent. Both letters respond to the contents of my message and both answer my questions, but they are very different in content and length, and one is signed Natalia and the other Natasha. Hmmmmm, maybe she forgot she already sent a letter to me and went all the way back to the agency and wrote the second letter? Wow! Somebody really dropped the ball. Makes you wonder if either letter was written by this woman, if she even has a profile at Uadreams. Years ago I was with the agency and was writing to a woman and found her street address from another site she was on, when I sent flowers to her home she had no idea who I was, and Uadreams denied I ever contacted her. Mainly they were upset cuz they got nothing out of it. Recently I have been in contact with one of their translators, she still works there and verified that she writes letters to men with no input from agency ladies. I said why would you tell me this, aren't you afraid to get fired. She said they pay her "s__t" and she doesn't care. She also said some of the men's letters are answered by male translators with no input from the ladies. Yikes! Kinda makes you sick wondering if you are sharing personal details with Ivan or Igor. Fortunately I haven't give these scammers much money, it was worth it to find out the truth. There's likely some real women there, but I'm guessing they are all 40 plus." Vital Info All people Worldwide, See Uadreams Screenshot added here 2015-10-27: https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgInmXZF7oFhrRUNjY5Ncu-YNNTv6sDEIDDuklN7t7iIRGIcm-_Jy4dnco_NEwiQQ-D-0wURtndeoNc4CVZ89-0m2jHkKTD8xMmXJIu7GxpSWxoM38s6M3rxqyXHr6QBwPo5OZhTOyTAdA/s1600/expo1.JPG Added here 2015-10-28: How to report crimes offline and How to report crimes online: If you been scammed by Uadreams date agency letter translation feescam or similair, or other types of scams etc, please contact, and make a online report (some advices) at :
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http://scammerswhogotsloppy.blogspot.com/ (Confession show off or wordly boasting in unbiblically evil wicked ways about her scam operation from a girl maybe Ekaterina Kravchuk from Ukraine, most likely a scammer, telling us what evil she do, most likely daily and also how she runs her scam small marriage agency... The warning about this girl Ekaterina Kravchuk could also come from someone else exposing her by trying to show themself off as her in a Google plus page, as we think most scammers is more clever then expose themself on Google plus... Or maybe the real person if her name is Ekaterina Kravchuk actually in her own evil ways confessed the truth like this, maybe her guilt if any were to hard on her, as many Ukrainian and Russians people and girls claim to have faith in God, maybe that made her confess the truth, in her evil but also very secret manner, as Google plus pages is not always seen by many, some are some is not, depends on how well known and how much traffic it gets daily or monthly or yearly etc.)
This applies all places not just Ukraine or Russia this saying: Its very important to say this, just because some is bad, not all people in the countries meantioned Ukraine or Russia or any other country is bad. Its very important we do not let the scams and date scam agencies with their date scam sites and individual date scammers etc and scams in general, get us down so we look down on whole countries etc: Generally speaking its important to say this also now it also exist many honest people in Ukraine and Russia etc, both men and girls. Where are they you say, hmm they are most likely outside any form or scams, outside scam date agencies with their scam sites, that pay by translate fee per letter scam, and video chat or chat scam by pay per minute, that also has tons of negative feedback and negative reviews, and many honest truthful complaints from many people Worldwide Online and maybe also Offline some has etc.
Added here 2015-07-01. Updated 2015-07-05: Its important to screen out scam sites however 2 criterias must be meet: Its important when delist sites as scams that you go not only by their payment model pay per letter translate fee or pay per minute in chat and video chat, its not so good if sites use this payment model, as most sites, not all, but most sites usually is dishonest and pay the girls money for chat and letters, but not all do that. It is possible to find honest girls that seek marriage overseas, with opposite sex, without pay them, you know, nomatter what anyone says, some girls in Ukraine and Russia etc is honest, and is not only after the big bux, or money, it can be rare, maybe, sometimes hard to find them, but they do exist, for sure. Companies also lose money, revenue by paying money to the girls and beeing dishonest in scamming ways, so we can say for sure not all companies that have this payment model do pay their girls for letters and video chats etc: Why you say, actually some companies in that payment model are honest and wanna keep their money their, revenue. The honest ones is those companies that have few or like 0 complaints, meaning overall satisfied customers, as customers who feels wronged, complains or Police report scams etc. You might say but some of the scam date sites with its agencies etc companies promise to pay their girls for letters and chats and video chats and sometimes do and sometimes do not, yes, but in the case they refuse pay their girls, their scamming ways will not work as these girls who expect to work and get paid scamming forigne men Worldwide will stop working for them unless they get paid. You say hmm if they create fake profiles in their scam date sites with their scam agencies with stolen pictures of girls and scam people Worldwide by that. Hmm in long run the scam will not work in long run, as its impossible to completely fake live cam with recorded videos, as even the recorded fake cams even that they can obey certain commands. Smart guys will ask them to do specific task as stand up move around and say their and personally info like maybe name and country and city as an example to test the girl, to see if she is a real person at the date sites. And the recorded fake video can not do that, so without real girls the scam will die out pretty fast, as most guys will not only wanna write letters, most wanna video chat to see the girl live, before meeting her in reality etc, through the date site or agency in her country most likely etc, can be diffrent if its through an date site and not agency then girl might can travel to your country etc. We can not say just because some do it all is scams... Its like saying because some white or black people do crimes, all black and white people is criminals.... You know that is incorrect. Not all is bad because some is. You need two factors to blacklist a site serious true honest complaints togheter with payment model of date sites with their agencies that charge by translate fee, in order to be sure the site and agency is a scam. For high traffic date sites you need at least 5 to 10 to 30 serious complaints or maybe up to 100 to be sure a site is a totally scam. We do not wanna err in this as it also is peoples livelyhood, and we do not wanna delist some date sites as scams if we are not completely sure they are so... We must always go by online reputation and online complaints must be at least serious honest complaints like minimum 5 or up to 10 to 30 up 100 to be sure a site is a complete scam. Look at Anastasia and Uadreams etc they have like maybe 1000 thousends or very many true honest complaints and also payment model of pay by letter translate fee or pay by chat minute, so there is no quastion they are scams, but as in all scams when it comes to date sites with their agencies they have some few honest percent maybe like 5 in order to not be completely exposed. Some few percent do marry in these scam sites, but, its impossible almost to tell witch girls is the real honest ones not getting paid and not is married or have boyfriends, and witch girls is honest etc, so therefore when those 2 criterias is meet, as it is with Uadreams and Anastasiadate we do not recommend those sites at all. Not all is the same... The basis on the ways to screen out scam sites is good, but you also must have real complaints, as not all sites is scams by their payment model.... We always go by innocent until proven guilty beyond doubts. In other words one needs at least minimum 5 or up to 10 or up to 30 or 100 serious honest complaints from people to totally be sure a site is a scam site, depending on how big the site and well known the site is, how many members it has, as some site that are honest sometimes get bad feedback by dishonest people. So its important to really screen the complaints out the honest true ones from the fake dishonest ones. The true complaints consist of specific details about the company witch is very hard to fake and also have very accurate information that shows guidence to help people, not lose money of a bad service etc. We do not wanna err in this and destroy some good few companies out there that is honest some few are that charge of this payment model or similair. We do not wanna destroy their livelyhood and honest service they provide to all clients Worldwide, on suspicion and no real evidence or backup, that is initself as evil, as the real scam sites that charge pay per letter translate fee and charge by pay per minute with their many complaints they also have, why because both is based on a lie, one scams people Worldwide of their money in various scamming ways, and the other accuse companies beeing scams without any evidence to back that up except suspicion of payment model... witch by itself is not enough, to blacklist a site honestly.
We do not wanna bash them on only suspicion:
The honest service they provide and helping people find their love and not paying their girls, but girls is honest and seeking marriage for life etc.
To be a false witness and accuse someone guilty or company without any real evidence is as bad as well.
And we also believe its a crime to bash companies on 0 grounds to bad mouth companies online without any real proof it is surely a crime, to destroy companies Worldwide reputation is a crime if no real complaints exist or is founded. Innocent until proven guilty the law says applies in all things in this Life. When two factors is shown pay by letter translate fee and charge by minute in video chat, and also at least exist 5 to 10 serious honest true complaints exist then we can beyond any doubt delist that date site with agency or date site as a totally scam, to totally be avoided, without any doubt: We think 5 to 10 serious complaints against a site that charges by translate fee by letters and chat per minute is enough to prove its a scam site beyond any doubt, as the clients also verify that by more then 3 witnesses, more then 3 honest true complainst etc. We never go by guilty until proven innocent as some few ones seam to do.... We go by innocent until proven guilty, this applies in all things in life.
We do not recommend anyone to find a girl in sites that both is delisted as scams by their payment model and their many complaints, but for sure we know for a fact it is possible to find a wife even in those sites:
Its hard you have to screen all girls out by professionally photoshopped pictures and screen them out test all girls against their VK.com profiles if you can find them their if it stands singel in their VK status (hidden VK status is usually not in all cases, but in many cases, is a sign you cannot trust the girl completely as she might have boyfriend or is in love secretly, if is she choose to hide her VK status, not showing if she is singel or in love or married etc) you might have a chance if you find her VK status and it says singel but even so:
Remember many guys talk to same girls, so chances are very slim, not a high recommend. Recommend is to stay away of those sites when they are delisted by 2 factors their payment model and have honest complaints 5 or more then its a scam beyond any doubt stay far away from those date sites or sites in general also might applies to this somewhat also etc, as a general rule of common sence and logic: As date sites with like 0 complaints or very few equal satisfied customers overall in whole picture, equal no scam date sites, as Real scam date sites has tons of bad complaints, and bad reviews etc, this we know:
Compare to anastasiadate.com its a lot cheaper and the women are much more sincere... Until... You decided to visit them in Ukraine. This is when it becomes a bit fishy. The girls will insist you use the services from uadreams.com which costs a great deal of money. You can hire your own guide/translator to explore their city but the girl will not see you unless you use "uadreams.com" services. It will cost you $210-$300 for a 1 night stay at a 2nd rate hotel room from the agency. Using an independence travel agency hotel/taxi to airport and train (they will pick you)/5 nights at a 4 stars hotel in Rovno/half a day with an english speaking guide.... $700." See Source:
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Added new info here 2015-07-05, Extremely Vital Info, Inside info from Ukraine:
(Not all marriage date agencies with their sites is scams or date sites or agencies with their date sites etc. And also its never the Worldwide mens fault, never the Worldwide victims fault but only the scamming marriage date agencies with their scam sites and scam working 95 percent girls from Ukraine and Russia etc and scam agencies with their pay per letter translate fee scam agencies with their scam sites and 95 percent scam working girls etc from Ukraine and Russia etc, otherwise good info and good video):
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Vital Uadreams Review: Ukraine Girl Olia R warns About Uadreams and also Warns about Anastasiadate very important, as she were offered to work inside the scam pay per letter translate fee scam agencies with their pay per video chat and chat minute scam sites and their many honest truthful complaints from many people Worldwide and tons of negative reviews about them etc: "Olia R: 1 of 5 rating... How exactly they fool you 6/2/15 So, there are no secret in Ukraine, how to fool foreigners on marriage agencies. If you don't want to read a lot, just see my video reviw:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p103WzTMMEM Also you can read part of it this: Mostly time agencies fool foreigners, but in some cases girls also suffer. How they do this? 1. All letters go from their post. And you pay for every letter. Some ukrainian girls don't know language and they need interpreter to write a letter. They can write one thing, but translator can add something from herself - to push you write more and more letters, and of course to pay more and more money to agency. 2. You want to give a gift for you girl. Mostly times foreigners don't know real price and websites where they can order some flowers, jewelery or certificate to SPA-salon. They ask agency about it. If agency has 10-15% of rent - it's normal. But a lot of time they have 200-300% of rent, because foreignres mostly time don't know price. Also there is a situation, when they deal with dirls (hehe girls who scam men like this is not worthy to be called girls but dirls nice to go Olia R, lets hope they dirls stop this scamming with scam agencies etc and their evil scam sites and repent, if repent they can be called human beeings and girls again and men in the scam agencies etc is also then worthy to be called men, and human beeings. As this scamming is so wicked and evil, play with guys heart love emotions and robb them of money... Wicked evildoers repent, you destroy Ukraine and Russia Worldwide reputation etc.... Not all people or girls is bad from Ukraine or Russia, the good kind honest people and girls is outside the evil real pay per letter translate fee sites and video chats and chats pay per minute date site scams with scam agencies and they are pure evil, with tons of complaints and bad reviews etc. Lets hope they repent before its to late for them... While mercy still exist from True Trinity Yahweh, God of Bible, Gods Word etc, time is soon up, Christ, Gods Son return is very near, will most likely happend in our lifetime, but none know the days or the hour, but we can know the season by all Biblically signs that is furfilled, and some left to be, but very soon. Unless they repent Christ, Gods Son will destroy them from the face of this Earth, and my Heavenly Father Trinity Yahweh, God true of Bible, Gods Word, who also lives in me, and his few elected very few ones 8 noa bride, few ones who live Biblically daily in love for Christ, Gods Son in daily repentive state daily in love for Christ, Gods Son true of Bible, Gods Word. All who do evil repent and turn to Christ, Gods Son, before its to late for you, repent, and start live Biblically in daily repentive state because you love true Christ, Gods Son of Bible, Gods Word, hurry up, we wish not our greatest enemy to Hell, repent), take picture with some gift, but in real life just devide money what you pay them. 3. Woman, that you are speak with, can be man. One 50 years old owner of agencies confess, that very often he send letters from himself to other man from the name of woman. Sometimes there are not enough girls for speaking with candidates, so they hire boy. They also speak with you, ask you about money and when you ask for meeting, he refuse and tell that find other candidate... 4. The most dangerous place is Odessa. It's like capital of ukrainian bride, which mostly time wants only money from you." Also vital See Source:
If you don't want to read, just listen this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p103WzTMMEM
Mostly time agencies fool foreigners, but in some cases girls also suffer. How they do this?
1. All letters go from their post. And you pay for every letter. Some ukrainian girls don't know language and they need interpreter to write a letter. They can write one thing, but translator can add something from herself - to push you write more and more letters, and of course to pay more and more money to agency.
2. You want to give a gift for you girl. Mostly times foreigners don't know real price and websites where they can order some flowers, jewelery or certificate to SPA-salon. They ask agency about it. If agency has 10-15% of rent - it's normal. But a lot of time they have 200-300% of rent, because foreignres mostly time don't know price.
Also there is a situation, when they deal with dirls (hehe girls who scam men like this is not worthy to be called girls but dirls nice to go Olia R, lets hope they dirls stop this scamming with scam agencies etc and their evil scam sites and repent, if repent they can be called human beeings and girls again and men in the scam agencies etc is also then worthy to be called men, and human beeings. As this scamming is so wicked and evil, play with guys heart love emotions and robb them of money... Wicked evildoers repent, you destroy Ukraine and Russia Worldwide reputation etc.... Not all people or girls is bad from Ukraine or Russia, the good kind honest people and girls is outside the evil real pay per letter translate fee sites and video chats and chats pay per minute date site scams with scam agencies and they are pure evil, with tons of complaints and bad reviews etc. Lets hope they repent before its to late for them... While mercy still exist from True Trinity Yahweh, God of Bible, Gods Word etc, time is soon up, Christ, Gods Son return is very near, will most likely happend in our lifetime, but none know the days or the hour, but we can know the season by all Biblically signs that is furfilled, and some left to be, but very soon. Unless they repent Christ, Gods Son will destroy them from the face of this Earth, and my Heavenly Father Trinity Yahweh, God true of Bible, Gods Word, who also lives in me, and his few elected very few ones 8 noa bride, few ones who live Biblically daily in love for Christ, Gods Son in daily repentive state daily in love for Christ, Gods Son true of Bible, Gods Word. All who do evil repent and turn to Christ, Gods Son, before its to late for you, repent, and start live Biblically in daily repentive state because you love true Christ, Gods Son of Bible, Gods Word, hurry up, we wish not our greatest enemy to Hell, repent), take picture with some gift, but in real life just devide money what you pay them.
3. Woman, that you are speak with, can be man. One 50 years old owner of agencies confess, that very often he send letters from himself to other man from the name of woman. Sometimes there are not enough girls for speaking with candidates, so they hire boy. They also speak with you, ask you about money and when you ask for meeting, he refuse and tell that find other candidate...
4. The most dangerous place is Odessa. It's like capital of ukrainian bride, which mostly time wants only money from you."
And also vital See: http://www.sitejabber.com/users/oliar Again (However it exist other few good honest date sites Online also, that have low monthy subscriptions cost, with all included send as many messages as you want, no translation fees per letter, but all is included in the low monthly or quarterly, or yearly price etc, and free date sites exist honest few good ones, avoid pay by letter translation fee date sites, and date sites with low reputation or bad.) (This date expert investigator Mark Davis, DreamConnections from USA really knows what he is talking about, but incorrect in some, but in whole picture, but in all we do daily pray to be covered in Jesus Christ, Gods Sons, name and Blood for Protection, before you see his videos also, and we also live in daily Biblically state in daily repentive state in love for true Jesus Christ, Gods Son, of Bible, Gods Word):
Added here 2015-04-09, UPDATED 2015-07-14: EXTREMELY VITAL VIDEO ALSO WATCH WHOLE:
Inside Secrets Revealed to the Dating Industry Overseas:(However important to meantion this, addition, one thing in this video below is very incorrect we personally know many people who meet or finded their love, maybe future love by first writing letters Online at a Serious date site Online, and not by translate letter fees scam date sites with their agencies, and then after the people man and girl meet, in real life, and clicked, matched, however it is also very important to meet in real life eye to eye with the girls, and not only write letters or chat , or video chat online. As meantioned below on this website, video chats are usually faked at scam Online date pay by letter translation fee Online date sites with their agencies scams. Also no one is stupied to fall for a scam, its never victims fault, but the scammers fault who do the deceit and scamming innocent victims, do not like when some bad name innocent victims they already got abused by the scammers, and need no more abusing hurtful words, for gotten decieved in some degree of the scams pay by letter translate fee date sites with their agencies scams and scammers etc, (important to treat others as one self wanna be treated), othervise very extremely good video):
Added here 2015-04-09, Updated 2015-07-14 Vital below:
All People vital you see all videos in this link, explained in great detail never before seen, how the scam pay by letter sites translation fees agencies scams works:
http://dreamconnections.com/scam-education/(We recommend some of his videos, but we do not believe in all Mark Davis at Dream Connections is saying, only some, nor do we fully recommend Mark Davis Dream Connection Services. Also one customer we personally seen complaint from said that he did not find the girls serious, but playing around with him or similair...: Also very important you see this info about this:Click here (Intresting choice of girls listed on Dream Connection, honest... yeah right.... Link updated daily or pretty often, so all please check out pretty often.)
Very truthful complaint:
https://plus.google.com/+Myukrainebride/posts Or: https://plus.google.com/+Myukrainebride/about (Contact Details likely to reviewer). Exist also more complaints about Mark Davis Dream Connection Online, but think this is the most honest one. Poor person, most likely this person maybe paid, maybe 5000 usd dollars for nothing..... (Some of the fees shown below for Mark Davis Dream Connections Date Business):
And that customer also proberly paid very much money many thousends for nothing when he used Mark Davis Dream Connection Services... (This must be added Mark Davis Dream Connection do not seamingly bad mouth other Online companies Online by call them out by their names, but he is smart doing it secretly, to not get caught in it.
Anyone can claim he said this and she said that, but were is the evidence, real proof, of what people customers says, and real complaints from customers etc...
Thereof we think no real evidence has been presented, as we also could say for an example Eric said this and that, and that is no evidence, only something we claim someone else said...
We need screenshots and real evidence for his many claims from real human customers complaints worldwide etc, in order to fully believe his claims about the competition, without that its just bad mouth the Online competition without any real cause or evidence, except getting more customers to one self date business, as Mark Davis Dream Connection seamingly try to do...
We are not saying Mark Davis Dream Connection do this completely but in part, and also speaking in Generally terms, like if this is the case repent of the guilty ones, or similair said, refering to all who do this dishonesty bashing of other companies Online services, without show any real proof of customers, peoples Worldwide complaints etc, in for example screenshots etc or quotes screened and sources to the Worldwide customers complaints etc. To Only refer to translators as proof without show what they said in screenshots or quotes with sources, mean nothing, also it can be much harder to verify translators claims, as could be hard for customers to talk to them, and verify the truth in the complaints of translators, as they usually wanna stay secret, if saying something important about the scammy business, for safty reasons, witch is understandable.
Some or many translators do speak the truth, but some few might lie for attention or so or exaggerate much or some things. Easier to verify customers Worldwide complaints, as some usually has no reason to hide, as they never been involved close hand to the scammy business, like translators or works is by been there a long time daily often many hours a day seeing the scammy date business in close hand. Translaors and workers who repents and tell the truth lives more dangerous as the scam date companies might wanna silence them for telling the truth, and many of those scam date companies might be Russian Mafia runned very evil runned date scams with real translate fee per letter and chat per minute scam agencies and their scam sites that has tons of negative complaints from many people, customers Worldwide and bad reviews Worldwide etc. However in order to verify Customers Worldwide complaints, their complaints must be presented and also sources to them, and contact details, so one can verify them if one wants.
However some complaints, applies both Worldwide customers complaints and repentive honestly telling Translator/Worker complaints, can be verified even without contact the one who made the complaints by seeing their info about company and the specific details in the complaints and also see that they truelly honestly want to help people save money and not getting scammed.):
Why do we not believe in Mark Davis completely, because like all or most business owners they have their own agenda to make people use their services, and in this case include bash other sites even when not fully the 2 criterias maybe is meet as shown above, in order to earn money themselfs, and level out competition in dishonest ways without real basis evidences complaints true honest ones from people for their claims of other scams activity, in competition date sites or agencies etc, if this has happend it shows deceit, also its criminal to badmouth companies online without any real evidence, honest true complaints and backup from people, one can not just dismiss whole sites by their payment model only... Without at least 5 true honest serious complaints also, its dishonesty and even criminal to bad mouth companies online without any shreed of real evidence complaints or proof to back it up, just suspicion at best... Illegal to destroy honest companies livelyhood in that way... Innocent until proven guilty law says, not other way around!
Mark Davis services might be ok maybe, but way to expensive for the average guy Worldwide we also would think, to meet some girls on like blind dates, paying big bux 1000s of dollars... "
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(Our add nothing is worth these kind of 1000 dollars sick amount sums of money going on some blind dates... Even if alot other stuff is included, we firmely believe love shall be free, or as close to it... Not that some greedy folks as Mark Davis Dream Connection business, make big bux on some overpriced services that also in some ways proven is not as honest as many people seam to believe... Funny some people accuse us robbing people of money recommending honest trustworthy service, best Online Ever No Doubt, 0 Doubt as they have like 0 true honest complaints, like Cinderella1, and they themselfs recommend dishonest and high overpriced evils as "Mordinson 7-day Introduction Service package - USD 2450,00 10-day Introduction Service package - USD 2650,00 more about this below as its so much more expensive then this..." and Dream Connection costs like 5000 USD dollars or much more so much as 15 000 USD dollars and up...., talk about beeing hypocrits... , as both those sites Mordinson and Dream Connection have many serious complaints witch Cinderella1 do not have. Lets hope the accuser with false accusations repents and stop hurting people for recommending good trusthworthy and true honest marriage agency as Cinderella1. When we talk about Cinderella1 Poltava Ukraine, we mean Cinderella1 Poltava Ukraine, and nothing else, not Cinderella Dnepropetrovsk, Ukraine, witch is a another Company or bad dishonest agency or Company, witch we never ever, will recommend, who has serious complaints (More about Mordinson far below, scroll far down on this Blogg, updated info, last updated some links about Mordinson 2015-08-21):
And Cinderella1 is so much cheaper you can use their service and meet girls from Poltava in real life at Cinderella1 Office in Poltava, and if possible skip letters and chats to hold cost down, you most likely can meet a girl and exchange contact details for your future wife by using Cinderella1 for maybe less then 700 dollars etc, a theory, if meet very few girls, air plane ticket etc those cost also comes, but we are talking about only Cinderella1 cost for service here. Cinderella1 also has like perfect trackrecord sence 2008 according to their Copyright, and hight 100 percent trustscore and like also trackrecord and honesty listed by Scamadviser is Cinderella1 witch is extremely good, also Cinderella1 do not bash its competitions without real honest complaints from people it seams, in order to get gain over people to get more customers etc as Mark Davis Dream Connections seamingly does, witch by itself is illegal to do...
This could be good or bad if clients wants more girls to choose from in diffrent age ranges etc. But this makes the Marriage Agency Cinderella1 site more honest:
Because Cinderella1 is a Marriage Agency thereof the cost is a bit more expensive then ordinary date sites, but more honest and serious for marry opposite sex so a high recommend, because all their girls is interviewed and passport verified and they wanna have controll of the girls beeing sincere and honest for marriage they do not have so many women, maybe a max like some few 100s girls in their professional honest sincere Marriage Agency Cinderella1 etc.
Cinderella1 has also like 0 true honest complainst equal overall most satisfied customers etc, and also do not hide their customers contact details witch is good anyone can contact the customers and verify Cinderella1 for themselfs, more about this and some cheap monthly subscription date sites and some free date sites recommendations etc, more about this below on this Website far down: Cinderall1 is American own also witch a big plus of honest people, we personally know this for a fact as we knows the founders ourself now talk to them daily etc. Cinderella1 is also recommended by our friend Dave Stevens USA, Cinderella1 is on his Gold list highest recommend ever, who most likely also meet Cinderella1 staff in real life maybe, we are a bit unsure of that, but still he is a reviewer with many years of experience he knows what he is speaking about. Cinderella1 has like 0 true honest complaints from people and been in business long long time sence 2008 according to Cinderella1s copyright, that is more then one can say about Mordinson and Dream Connection that both have serious complaints, and Dream Connection is also now founded out to list dishonest girls, that might be agency girls also... See:
(Intresting choice of girls listed on Dream Connection, honest... yeah right.... Link updated daily or pretty often, so all please check out pretty often. Serious Honest Truthful complaint inscanned also a bit above about Mark Davis Dream Connection like Blind Date Business, exist more complainst Online also that we did not list, as we are unsure of the truth in those accusations, but if they also are true... Talk about a bad service that fooled so many, who still choose to recommend them to the people... Let say for the sake of argument they are soo honest... It really does not matter in this regard no service is worth 15000 thousend USD dollars and up.... For some blind dates.. Even if much other is included... Love shall be free, or as close to it, we will always go by that, we will never by intent ever decieve anyone online, and recommend them services that robb the people Worldwide who also is proven to be dishonest, by serious complaints from people Worldwide listed etc.
Dave Stevens have personally visit some of the date sites agencies offices in Ukraine and maybe Russia also, he knows what he is talking about as he also go and see the places himself, that is more then one can say of most so called "reviewers" Online... More about this futher down on this Website:
http://dreamconnections.com/iqt/(Usually tours is the worst way on meeting girls on, this may or may not apply to Dream Connection, who knows for sure, as they have complaints its also seams, we will not fully recommend them, as it seam to exist more then 1 complaint... We also believe greed can destroy or corrupt even the best companies, that started with the best of intentions, but when they get to large and well known, in some cases, not all, but in many cases, it becomes more and more about the money earnings, and big bux then the real honest service... It might be the case here, unsure, but can be. Thereof Dream Connections complaints from some of their clients, as some of them seam to be honest some few, maybe not all but some few.)
, that you can do that for free in real life, meet some girls in like some blind dates, also a big turn off for Mark Davis services is that it seams to exist serious complaints about them Online maybe, we are a bit unsure if some of the complaints are honest or not. One very honest complaint very truthful is listed about them a bit above on this Website.
Some truth is it its good to also meet girls from Ukraine or Russia etc in general in reality, but Mark Davis talk about skip chats and letters and go for some expensive blind dates etc using his services at Dream Connection or similair, is a very bad idea, and has a high failure rate, also according to real honest true scam fighter Reggie or see below, only avoid real scam sites if the two criterias above is meet, as meantioned above at this Website.
Also as a general rule, if you wanna take some advices Online etc or in General, this may not apply in all things, but when it comes to avoid scams and date scams and who to trust etc usually its best to take advices from people that are not getting any kind of reward or money for it, that has 0 agenda, or has own date business, one tries to steer customers to, by bad mouth out the competition, without real evidence, true honest complaints from people etc, those who do that... If that is the case, those guilty of this repent, and stop doing it etc.
The only agenda we at this website has is that we honestly and sincerity want to help people Worldwide for free of charge, avoiding date scams etc. We on this website recieve no kind of reward or money, but warn people Worldwide completely for free, as it always will be.)
Added here: 2015-04-07, updated 2015-06-18 vital info below, or more shown clearly: This is also regarding all scam date sites agencies including Uadreams with all their other extensions, that charges per letter translations fees and video chat minute fees in these charge by letter translate scam date agencies date sites (However it exist other few good honest date sites Online also, that have low monthy subscriptions cost, with all included send as many messages as you want, no translation fees per letter, but all is included in the low monthly or quarterly, or yearly price etc, and free date sites exist honest few good ones, avoid pay by letter translation fee date sites, and date sites with low reputation or bad): And this also most likely these or similair ads in newspaper or online or offline like these also applies Uadreams.com scam pay per letter translate fee with all their other extensions:
All over the country you stumble upon such advertisements. I’ll explain and comment on them in more details a little bit later.
The advert runs: ‘Start your own business with us’, lower – ‘Welcome to the system of international dating,’ and in the very bottom – ‘Start your own business right now by filling in the form on the site’
The advert goes as follows: “GIRLS of 18 y.o. and more are invited for a highly paid job. Well consider all the types and candidates. There are not any standards and criteria in our business. Salary from 40,000 UAH on (= $5,000).”
“FEMALE EMPLOYEES from 18 y.o. are in demand for a work with high pay.
Best conditions, we’ll provide for lodging, discreetness and safety guaranteed.
Salary from 40,000 UAH on.
If you wish to provide yourself and your family with decent future, call us right now.”
https://ingululeveza.wordpress.com/ (Important link see whole webpage some screenshot pictures of the scam site agencies pay per letter translation fee, ads recruiting girls for work scamming forigne men Worldwide...) And also applies Uadreams.com scam pay per letter translate fee with all their other extensions: "
Q & A
Here are the questions I get both on my email and in person, I hope they may be useful to somebody else as well.
Q: What percentage of the girls on Dream Marriage or Anastasia. are real?
I really do think that many are real ?
Or am I mistaken ?
A: I would put it shortly in this way: ALL the sites that have the option of online video chat have really existing girls, however, only about 95-98% of them have a genuine intention to marry a foreign man. The sites where you can’t have video chat very often contain fake profiles, sometimes reaching 90% of the total.
Q: Are there any honest ladies that can be trusted and how would anyone ever be able to determine this ? Is there a list of woman to stay away from or any checks that can be done?
A: There ARE honest ladies, although they are a great minority, on those sites, they comprise about 2-5% of the total. You may more or less definitely determine them through the following things: 1) They are willing to go off the expensive site and communicate via free means; 2) They agree to meet up with you without any assistance of the third party – agency, interpreter, etc. 3) When you communicate on free social network or emails they do not speak about their financial hardships and never ask you for material help; 4) When you come to them, they don’t ask you to buy them any gifts or go to the expensive restaurants. If they say they can’t for example communicate on the free sites and mails for some reason (absence of Internet, stolen laptop, etc etc), be sure – they are scammers!!! If they agree to write to you from their personal mail, but start after some time asking you for material help, or hint that you helped them – they are scammers!!!
As for the lists of women and sites that are involved in scamming – for the most part they are supported by their competitors, that are in turn scammers as well. I know many of such sites supporting scam lists, writing anti-scam tips etc, in order to divert your attention from their own real nature.
The 4 conditions mentioned above will help you to rule out most of the scammers."
https://ingululeveza.wordpress.com/q-a/(Just one big error at that quastion answer link those girls in video chat, is not a sign of beeing real if its in pay by letter translation fee scam sites agencies... Video chat can be recorded faked, even hand movements can be faked in video chat, can be recorded video, with programmed hand movements in live by a command the victim ask for can you wink at me to prove you are real girl, and then the recorded fake video chat girl wink at you...: More about Watch this Warning to men Worldwide from BBC NEWSClick Here 3:29 min in Video about this Backup Watch this Warning to men Worldwide from BBC NEWS BackupClick Here 3:29 min in Video about this and watch this other Video,Watch this Click Here 5 min in Video about this Backup Click Here5 min in Video about this, and also Watch this other video important also to watch Click Here or Backup Click Here or See far below on this site, see video section on this site, regarding this, andI would say 95 percent or more of the girls in video chat in these scam date agencies pay per letter sites translation fee, who refuses to speak freely outside the letter scam translate fees date site agencies, are scammers, if they blame it on can not speak English its a lie most girls from Ukraine or Russia can basic English, or can use Online Translator, and understand you, More about this Below: Most girls in these scam per letter translation fee scam date sites agencies is working, earning money by every letter you write to girls by correspond with you through date scam per letter scam translation fees in those scame date agencies, girls also get commision for that every letter you write them, and every minute, you video chat with them, girls get commisions etc. Girls also get commision for how many times their video is viewed on the scam pay per letter translation fee scam sites agencies, if it cost money to view their introduction video as some have a few for not all but some of the girls have on Uadreams with all their other extensions). And also applies Uadreams.com scam pay per letter translate fee with all their other extensions: "
About
This blog is intended to give an insight into the Ukrainian dating business, which has been ever growing from mid-1990s, and has become an essential part of the organised crime, attracting millions of dollars from the West. This business – cheating single Western men out of their money and exploiting Ukrainian women – has powerful protectors within higher and middle layers of Ukrainian national and local government, police, and SBU (formerly known as KGB). This huge mechanism is very well fuelled oiled by numerous interest groups, such as dating sites, their partners (local dating agencies recruiting women), models, and writers.
I had a rare opportunity to see this system from the inside and think it might be of interest to those who have in one or another way been abused by it, and those who think about finding a Ukrainian wife through the Internet.
Whenever you find you are extortionately charged for site’s services – be it letters, chat, online call or whatever else, – whenever a woman doesn’t appear for a meeting at the agreed time, whenever you are asked to help with money, or other commodities, whenever she forgets some important thing from your correspondence and chat, whenever you are taken to an expensive restaurant and are asked or insisted to pay for a girl and a person accompanying her (interpreter, ‘friend’,’ cousin’) – remember that it is no accident. It is not a simple misunderstanding or an exception – it is a basic law that lies within the very core of dating business in Ukraine.
As any human system, however evil and fraudulent it may be, it is not perfect, and you might encounter an honest and sincere lady even there. Still, if you met a seemingly sincere and honest lady on a dating site and wish to meet her, you have a 95 – 98% chance of being deceived and cheated out of your money, either by site or by their partners together with their employees. If a lady is trying to delay your meeting, it means her only aim is to get as much messages, chat minutes or gifts from you as possible, which is directly proportionate to the commission she receives from the site.
In fact, looking for a wife in Ukraine with the help of a dating site or agency is the worst idea conceivable.
Sincerely yours,
Ingulule Veza"
https://ingululeveza.wordpress.com/about/(In deepth study of all evil behind this, can be accurate some of the info in the link maybe not all but some.) New Info Added here 2015-06-20, but updated 2015-06-22: (Much of what is listed on this sites, also applies date scams and similair scams and scams Worldwide also). Generally info, however it exist honest people out site the corruption of Ukraine and Russia as well, and outside crimes and illegal unbiblically evils etc, and outside scams pay by letter translation fee date sites, and date sites with low reputation or bad:
"Corruption is a widespread and growing problem in Ukrainian society.[1][2] In 2014's Transparency International Corruption Perceptions Index Ukraine was ranked 142nd out of the 175 countries investigated (tied with Uganda and the Comoros).[3] Back in 2007 Ukraine had taken 118th place (179 countries investigated that year).[4] Ernst & Young (in 2012) put Ukraine among the three most corrupted nations of the world together with Colombia and Brazil.[5]" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_in_Ukraine" And: "Corruption in Russia is a significant problem that affects the lives of Russia's citizens[citation needed]. Corruption has penetrated all levels of government and most other aspects of life in Russia[citation needed]. 18.06.15 Transparency International has ranked Russia 127th in its recently published 2013 Corruption Perceptions Index.[1] The previous year, Russia was ranked 133rd and in 2011 143rd. It's difficult to say if this improvement is a result of effective anticorruption measures taken by the Russian government but, according to economist Alexandra Kalinina, despite the improved score, corruption in Russia remains "not a problem, but a business"[citation needed]." https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Corruption_in_Russia Investigator blogger Ukrainian girl Krystyna warns: "Men should be very cautious and not be naïve. But yet, hundreds of men send huge portions of their income to a woman they’ve never met for extended periods of time, hoping to get the woman of their dream. My question is WHY??? Transcription of the video tutorial: (This Ukrainian date expert investigator Krystyna really knows what she is talking about, but in all we do daily pray to be covered in Jesus Christ, Gods Sons, name and Blood for Protection, before you see her video also, and we also live in daily Biblically state in daily repentive state in love for true Jesus Christ, Gods Son, of Bible, Gods Word): http://www.ukrainiandatingstories.com/why-do-western-men-send-money-to-ukrainian-brides-they-hardly-know/ And Vital: http://ukrainiandatingblog.com/2015/03/interview-with-reggie-oglesby-a-ukraine-dating-expert-scam-fighter/
"Interview with Reggie Oglesby, a Ukraine dating expert & scam fighter BY KRYSTYNA · MARCH 1, 2015 Reggie Oglesby is a Ukrainian dating expert and author of the book Trials & Tribulations of an Internet Dater: The Search for a Ukraine Bride (available on Amazon). Reggie offers you over 17 years International online dating experience and is an expert in exposing online romance scams, having personally exposed over 1100 fake Ukraine brides posting profiles and some fraudulent marriage and dating agencies. Reggie has an established processing technique for the Fiancée Visa, cutting considerable time off the time to get a Ukrainian woman to interview. Below you’ll find my interview with Reggie Oglesby in which we discuss Ukrainian online dating, online romance scam, as well as general advice. I hope you’ll enjoy.
Reggie Oglesby Krystyna: Hi Reggie. As said above, you have a huge experience with dating foreign (or better to say, Ukrainian) women. Could you tell about your experience more in details? Reggie: Hi Krystyna. Yes, I can say I have quite a bit of experience with online dating and Ukraine women. Most of it NOT so pleasant. I started Internet Dating in 1998 and made my first trip to Odessa to meet a nice woman. We spent about 6 months developing relations to make the meeting happen. We liked each other, just not enough for marriage and we remained friends. In 1999, I traveled once more to meet a woman IN Odessa who was from Lugansk and experienced my first SCAM! She was what we call a professional dater, tricking men to think she wanted marriage and taking support of their care. She agreed for marriage, (she was quite convincing), but afterwards thing did not make sense in all the delays and excuses she put forth. I later learned from another man she had betrayed that this was her business and she was quite successful at it. Now, Lugansk has a worldwide reputation of being the SCAM CAPITAL of the World! In, 2000, I met and later married a Belarus woman and we were married for 6 years and share a son together. She was not the best match to me really and we endured many problems that we just ended up in divorce. That is a whole other story! Since then: 2007: Traveled to Lithuania, woman sent me youthful photos of her 10 years prior, basically deceived me to come meet her claiming to be one woman and actually another. 2008: Traveled to Moscow using a romance tour and none of the women were a match. A total waste. 2009: Traveled to Minsk to meet one girl but we were just not a good match and remained friends today. 2010: Spent 6 months developing relations with Odessa woman who also proved to be a professional dater. She was quite good and convincing you of her love and care but when I arrived to meet her, saw immediately how selfish and greedy woman she was. She was only interested in a man’s wallet and nothing else. 2011: I traveled to Kiev, Sumy, Kharkov, Poltava and Nikolaev, meeting several women I had met online, some even who invited me and ALL turned out a great disappointment. None were as they claimed to be in letters. It was a great disappointment. Krystyna: Is there any difference between Ukrainian and American woman, in your opinion? Why are many Western men looking so actively for a wife from Russia or Ukraine? What do they expect in a marriage and relationship with a foreign woman?
Reggie: Krystyna, despite many disappointing encounters with Ukraine women, I came to recognize those women I had misfortune to meet were really a product of the corrupt nature of online dating and not a true representation of real, marriage seeking Ukraine women. You can only judge the individual, NOT the female population. Ukraine women differ from American women mainly in their femininity. They know how to act, look and be a woman. American women seem to have lost that given the rise of feminism and career aspirations. American women are so busy trying to be like a man, they forget to be a woman and men hate this. Ukraine women on a whole do not seem so corrupt by Western feminism; still maintain a more traditional attitude to marriage, husband and children over the American counterpart. Men like a feminine woman for one, Ukraine women are some of the most beautiful in the world and EVERY man enjoys this! I guess the main thing a Western man like me seeks in marriage with a Ukraine woman is to first find her respect that man is head of his house, she allows him to be a man and that she is more focused to be a partner. Men need the emotional support and care of a good woman which in turns fuels the power in the man to rise to his highest potential on behalf of her and his family. Women forget or abuse the power they have to positively motivate a man to greatness and that is a big failure among American women. Krystyna: You are an active fighter against online romance scam? What could you tell about scammers? Is any chance not to get scammed by agencies and online dating services? Reggie: Scammers, men or women, are the scourge of Internet Dating and they cause a lot of heartbreaks which I think is unforgiveable. All for the sake of greed. I know how much of my time and money has been wasted in 17 years in my journey, the constant LIES, BETRAYALS and disappointments. Hope lost. It is a terrible feeling and one I think any SCAMMER needs be held accountable for. Many chastise me for even reporting women I can prove or liars and scammers online. They say “it is none of my business”. How can it not be my business when people like this run rampant on the Internet and never held accountable so others do not encounter what I do? I think any responsible person, man or woman, who has a sense of values, MUST expose any scammer they come in to contact with. I can say for those who did, it has helped me avoid future mistakes and I THANK ALL who have the courage to expose those online who corrupt the dating process. I also hold online dating agencies such as Anastasia.com and A Foreign Affair as representative of what is WRONG in the industry. It is a money factory for them and nothing more. Ansastasia.com is notorious for profiling dishonest women and hordes of scammers. Since it is one of the biggest agencies out there, men mistakenly assume they help you get married. WRONG! They just take your money! anastasia date I know of NO ONE who has had a positive experience in finding love with their women. I actually used one of their agencies in Kharkov in 2011. They paid a woman to go out on a date with me, claiming she was available for marriage when in fact she was engaged to be married. It was just a FREE dinner date for her. We hit if off so well that she came clean to tell me the entire story. She became a dear friend afterwards because she was HONEST! For the most part, it is quite RARE to find an honest agency that truly endeavors to help men and women find love and marriage in an HONEST manner. I happen to know a few, less than a handful that I would ever recommend a man to use. Krystyna: Do you believe that a marriage with a “mail order bride” from Ukraine and Russia can work? Which common mistakes do Western men make while having a relationship with a foreign woman? Reggie: Having actual marriage experience gives me an edge in commenting on this matter. I can say that if you find someone online that you feel a connection with; you have to make effort and WORK to develop relations PRIOR to any meeting. It means being totally honest with the person and opening yourself up, she and you, so you begin to discover each other in the very basic form of the heart and soul. It is a great opportunity to learn the “inner world” of a person, that is IF they are being honest and you have to be smart and ever vigilant to always make sure “things make sense” while you develop relations. Rarely do I ever find a woman online who puts forth the same effort to know me as I wish know her. I ask LOTS of questions. Sadly, many Ukraine women think this a useless endeavor as their focus is only a meeting. What they all fail to realize is that without proper development and understanding of who the person they will meet can be, then the meeting often proves just another failure. Why is it of the girls I met in 2011 that I see still online, are NOT married? That has to say something to the foolish mindset. I tell women that NO rational man (in my opinion) is going to spend many thousands of dollars to travel, take time off from work to go meet a woman as some blind-date (and maybe have only a few days or few weeks to do all that) and not know what she can offer in a relationship or marriage, let alone know what she wants to accomplish in life. And truly expect marriage? NO WAY! And why would a serious marriage-minded Ukraine woman even want to meet a man she did not know how he can support her, care about her, what things in common they have, etc? The man has a limited time to come and in most cases, HIS ONLY TIME, he can meet and decide for marriage. Ukraine women seem oblivious to that fact. They forget the tool Online Dating is suppose to offer them to accomplish all the non-physical understanding of who a person is inside and if that matches what they truly seek. Krystyna: What is the number one advice you have for Western men who want to find a woman from Ukraine or Russia? Reggie: My number one advice to men who want to find a foreign wife is to use your brain, not what is in your pants to dictate what your actions are. Beauty is not all that it appears to be (my ex- was a Belarusian model and a prime example) when it comes down to what defines a person. I have seen too many men fall for a sexy woman only to find she is a scammer or even the photos end up being stolen of famous models. If you always question and make sure they make sense, you are off to a better start than most. This is NOT for the faint of heart and you have to be committed to this. If not, you are just spinning your wheels and opting for failure!" http://ukrainiandatingblog.com/2015/03/interview-with-reggie-oglesby-a-ukraine-dating-expert-scam-fighter/ We also have some recommendations I think we can trust by Reggie who fights scams as well, more about that below, far below in updated recommend section of date sites 2015-06-20 etc: And this also most likely applies Uadreams.com scam pay per letter translate fee with all their other extensions, in similair scamming ways etc: "
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…i would like to inform you of such a case involving me , the ladies name is Mariya Arhipoyva her email address is mariusecha@yahoo.com , i have two addresses for her house 29, apt42 sovetskaya st volgograd 51011 and the second …15 zueva st Moskow , i regretfully inform you that i trusted this Mariya , many letters were exchanged and then i sent her money with the intent of her travelling to me , as she expressed all interest , obvoiusly all to deceive , hindsight is a wonderful thing , lessons to be learnt etc, anyway i am hoping that my informing you will help prevent someone else falling victim to this ladies deceit …thankyou ..
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Thank you again- I will steer clear from Dream marriage, does it also apply to Anastasia?
A lot of what you said made so much sense – my gratitude to you
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Hello Magnus. It is good to see you on this thread. You've entered here to the thread of scamming agencies http://www.ualadys.com and http://www.uadreams.com . I think it works this way. The agency recruits the girls. Make them fill personal data and the girl or the agency writes a model letter to their victims Then the agency goes fishing victims. The agency charges the victim for the letter written. The more you write the better for the agency. The agency doesn't give a damn about you seeig the lady. When you decide to go to Ukraine they start the show with the lady. The lady is hired for meeting you and hasn't read the mails you sent her. It is a Typical Ukranian style scam. This information was taken from http://www.agencysc..vice.html
Here is a big (Ukraine-style) scam. You correspond, you talk on the phone, you go and visit. You pay for everything, taxis, interpreters, gifts, you go back home. The girl loves your time together, you continue to correspond and maybe visit again. Where's the scam? The agency is making a fortune from your letters and visits, they want it to continue, but the never had any intention of a future with you. How can you spot this scam? You can't. Read reports on your agency before you get too deeply involved.
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Other Comments: BACKGROUND From what I researched through http://agencyscams.com/index.html, the original company was Confidential Connections.com. Later it changed (names, owners???) and became UALADYS.COM. Around the start of 2008, this company split in a melodramatic feud between supposed owners in Ukraine! It became 2 identities, Ualadys.com and Uadreams.com. You will see from the above addresses, the parent company is in USA. Essentially, these companies continue to operate in a similar fashion. Clients, either find the site OR are enticed to join the site by ladies (as I was from Ukrainedate.com!) and then you begin writing to ladies in their gallery. YOU PAY!!! ALL letters are translated, at a cost TO YOU, regardless if the lady speaks YOUR language! Services for the ladies are FREE! You cannot have personal contact details or be in direct contact with ladies, apart from through the agency! You pay for letters, photos and videos and they try to get you to send gifts as well, which they supply from their SHOP on the internet site, at 3 times the cost you can buy over the counter! On the surface, one can feel protected and ensured that the ladies exist! After all, its through an agency!!! BUYER BEWARE!!! In brief, I visited ladies in 2008 and 2009, via these 2 agencies. Having written to ladies from both agencies at various cities around Ukraine, I thought that my chances of connecting with at least ONE would be assured! The agency encourages men to buy their TOUR packages, which gives YOU accommodation, introduction and translation with the girls you nominate...All at considerable costs!!! The girls put they search for (their age) to 55 or 60 year old men in their profiles, when they are in their 20's??? As an 'older' guy, having YOUNG girls write to me, claiming that I was what they were after as a partner, and age makes NO difference, is quite seductive and the rouse they use, ensuring you write and eventually visit! This is when things started to go bad! 2 weeks before my departure in 2008, and flight, visa and package are arranged and PAID, I received letters from ladies. SUDDENLY, they found work, in another part of Ukraine, another country...They are finishing their study, exams, looking for work, they are visiting sick, dying or a family member JUST died, or their family member just went to hospital and they need to be by their side 24/7!!! or they are opening their business.....The list continues, and YES, it ALL happened to me in these 2 trips! And yes, I was going to Ukraine to meet...WHO??? So I went, as canceling incurs fees as well!!! Then if you do meet with a lady you wrote to, then they take you shopping!...for clothes, perfumes etc Or they take you to expensive restaurants...Even if they can speak English, as with my case, they are not allowed to by the agency, who inserts a translator, so the agency makes a profit from that as well!!! And if you go to a restaurant, of course you pay for the translators lunch/dinner as well!!! This is all 'nicely' written for the unsuspecting male clients in the agencies advert, which also includes spiels about age difference! So the agency can claim that its 'clearly written', both in the internet site adverts, and the agreement you sign BEFORE you meet with ladies...Then the agency will say...Why did you do agree?... Also another reality for me was that when I met these girls, mostly, they did NOT know anything about me, though I had written to them for months before visiting!!! Then there are the more adept ones that can lead you to believe there is a future, and milk you for all they can...in a scammer style.....Some will openly ask for money, others allow you to offer, then they put their hands in both your pockets...You will go home with empty hearts and pockets! If you read the Gallina P episode on this site, it will give you an insight to what I experienced on my last visit. She is typical of the lady I met through this agency, and decided enough was enough! She is listed a s a scammer for good reason! NOW, I will highlight this episode from the discussions I have had with the agency! They have essentially 'whitewashed' the situation, and now offer me some of the money I gave to this lady (Gallina P) so that I will remove my postings of her!!! I will post my letters to the agency and their replies of how they deal with a 'scam' issue, and then claim they have a GOOD reputation! I hope it will enlighten you and save you money and emotions! So in this, I hope you will learn about these agencies through my experience! I will post letters soon!
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Hello Magnus. It is good to see you on this thread. You've entered here to the thread of scamming agencies http://www.ualadys.com and http://www.uadreams.com . I think it works this way. The agency recruits the girls. Make them fill personal data and the girl or the agency writes a model letter to their victims Then the agency goes fishing victims. The agency charges the victim for the letter written. The more you write the better for the agency. The agency doesn't give a damn about you seeig the lady. When you decide to go to Ukraine they start the show with the lady. The lady is hired for meeting you and hasn't read the mails you sent her. It is a Typical Ukranian style scam. This information was taken from http://www.agencysc..vice.html
Here is a big (Ukraine-style) scam. You correspond, you talk on the phone, you go and visit. You pay for everything, taxis, interpreters, gifts, you go back home. The girl loves your time together, you continue to correspond and maybe visit again. Where's the scam? The agency is making a fortune from your letters and visits, they want it to continue, but the never had any intention of a future with you. How can you spot this scam? You can't. Read reports on your agency before you get too deeply involved.
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Many scammers come from Ghana and Nigeria and surrounding countries nearby West Africa who try to scam people Worldwide:
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Best also to travel with a friend first time, never travel alone to high risk countries as Ukraine or Russia or Ghana, or Nigeriaand South Africaor Africa etc, or decide a common safe country to travel to both, and meet their at airport etc first time meeting, or use a safe reputable date site or true honest of the few marriage agency, then you can feel safe to travel, only marriage agency we recommend more about this far below on this website thats has good, almost perfect 99,9 percent perfect trackrecord and like 0 true complainst sence 2008, best in the business, in our opinion and testing, by far Online ever.
Another feature important to remember girls who are from Ghana or Nigeria or surrounding countries nearby West Africa etc, usually is not white like white from Europe or Sweden or USA, with white skin and blond and blue eyes etc or similar, but more of black or brunett and not as white, in skin colour even if some few might be white, they still are not as white usually as in European countries or in USA, if they look like from USA and European white girls on pictures or fake recorded videos with maybe some fake programmed winks and movements and claim they are from Nigeria or Ghana or Africa, they usually in 99,9 percent are scammers, also a important scam sign to look up for.
Nothing against people who are not white, nothing against any race or any human race or skin colour etc, but we are against those who steal other people pictures and videos in order to scam others and pretend to be them committing identy theft, and impersonating other people etc. One thing to backup important videos to expose scammers and warn the people, is a diffrent good thing.
If they can prove themself in video live and say a long message personally, like i like you and your city and country and full name and also say the same message write it on o note and hold up in live video, and if they look as their pictures, then they are no scammers, in this regard, they are who they claim, but their intentions, one can never be sure on until real face to face meeting. This video live request in live video is almost impossible to fake, its 99,9 percent accurate, or do a recorded video of this and send if she has no cam, is also ok, but best is that if she has a cam to prove herself in live video like this, remember wave and hold up some fingers is not enough as some fake recorded videos can obey certain easy commands to fool you...This is shown above on this website, and we can also show it here to:
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SIGNS TO LOOK OUT FOR BEEING A SCAM: Also do not believe a video in live feed working for only few seconds and then freezez and the scammer is blaming it on bad connection... True bad connection make Skype not working at all or speaking on Skype also true bad connection, shows video offline completely and when connection comes back video load again, it stops and load buffer, video will not just work few seconds and then freeze, and voice still on Skype working, nomatter the false claims lies of the scammer that she or he has really "bad Internet connection", no its not its a SCAM RUN STOP ALL COMMUNICATION WITH THE SCAMMER. If she or the person refuse to prove themself in live video, or recorded video live, by the specific personal details given by you, RUN ITS A SCAM, then she or he or whoever you speaking to is a scammer and do not exist as shown, because the scammer person is using someone else pictures and videos. If the scammer person insist sending you a picture proving she or he written a personally note to you holding up in picture do not accept it or believe that, as its most likely fake and photoshopped, only live video feed or live recorded video is accepted by the specific personally details given to the person to prove themself beeing at lest a real human beeing in the pictures and maybe also videos the person sent to you.
Best also to travel with a friend first time, never travel alone to high risk countries as Ukraine or Russia or Ghana, or Nigeria or Africa etc, or decide a common safe country to travel to both, and meet their at airport etc first time meeting, or use a safe reputable date site or true honest of the few marriage agency, then you can feel safe to travel, only marriage agency we recommend is more about this far below on this website, thats has good, almost perfect 99,9 percent perfect trackrecord and like 0 true complainst sence 2008, best in the business, in our opinion and testing, by far Online ever.
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How they the many scammers maybe both private persons and scam agencies and scam translate fee sites with their scam agencies etc are faking it, they are using these kind of programs they might obtain illegally by torrent download or buy online similair programs like these fools Skype and online messengers believing its a webcam when its a software witch allows to manipulate Skype and online messengers to show recorded videos as live video in Skype cam and online messangers live video feeds works with most online messengers to fake webcame live feeds:
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The men who go to Ukraine looking for a wife then fly home alone and broke
Ukraine's internet romance industry is booming – despite the unrest. But after chatting online, travelling to Odessa and wooing women on flashy dates, most men fly home alone and far poorer. Are they unlucky in love, or have they been scammed?
A woman walks by a shop window displaying wedding gowns in Kiev, Ukraine. Photograph: /Gleb Garanich/Reuters
These are trying times for Odessa. After the annexation of Crimea, pro-Russian forces are stirring tension in this Black Sea port, and there are weekly standoffs between demonstrators who want to be part of Ukraine and those who want closer ties to Russia. But for all the political and economic chaos that has engulfed Ukraine in the past three months, one industry is still thriving: the internet romance trade.
The economies of several Ukrainian cities are boosted by the surreal and disingenuous online bride business, and Odessa is the biggest hub. It does not take long for a visitor to the city to stumble upon an "international date" – there are legions of western men in town meeting with young women they have met online, usually with the conversation facilitated by a translator. At internet cafes and homes across the city, thousands of women spend hours each day chatting to prospective suitors online.
There is nothing like the prospect of economic hardship to facilitate intercontinental liaisons, and so, far from business drying up in recent months, the romance and "bride" trade is booming. If anything, there are now more western men planning trips to Odessa than there were last year, when I accompanied a "romance tour" to Ukraine for a magazine story. I spent a week in Odessa with 29 men, all of them hoping to find a wife during their trip. They were mainly Americans, but there were also Brits, an Italian and a Saudi on the tour.
I went with a company called Anastasia International, which is no grimy basement operation, but a huge company with a projected revenue last year of $140m (£84m). It has thousands of women in Ukraine and across the world on its books, available for chats and in-person meetings with lonely bachelors across the world looking for a wife.
As internet dating has gone mainstream over the past decade, Anastasia is attempting to rebrand what was once called the "mail-order bride" industry as something modern and progressive. This is no longer the preserve of seedy and exploitative men seeking vulnerable women from impoverished backgrounds to work as a longterm sex slave, the marketing suggests. This is "international dating", a civilised way to find romance without borders.
Except that the branding is still somewhat disturbing. The men pay for every minute they chat online to a woman, something that it becomes clear is a dangerous part of the business model. The company claims on its website that finding a woman in Ukraine is like "dating a model, but with the values of your grandmother". The men featured in testimonials are sick of western women, whom they insist have forgotten "family values".
'This is game time' Armed with this information, I was fully expecting to spend a week being nauseated by odious men preying on vulnerable women, and there were certainly a few on the trip whose misogyny reached prize-winning levels. But the overall story was far more complex.
"This is game time and they're blowing me off," Todd told me, mystified, one day over breakfast. It took the 43-year-old bread-delivery man from Delaware several months of working overtime to be able to afford the tour to Ukraine; he often clocked seven night shifts a week in order to save the roughly $5,000 (£3,000) he paid to spend a week in Odessa, and hopefully find a wife.
Todd, who had not succeeded in finding his other half at home, had something of a compulsive side to his personality. He spent months methodically whittling down 1,500 possible brides on Anastasia's site to two top candidates. He then spent thousands of hours and thousands of dollars chatting with them online. Things were going swimmingly with both women. He assumed that his trip to Odessa would involve picking the one he liked most and taking her back with him. But when he arrived, neither of them answered his calls.
While Todd's expectations for what a Ukrainian bride might offer were patently unrealistic, it was troubling to watch him venture ever further down the path of disappointment. Many of the men on the tour were less sympathetic characters than Todd, but all of them were lonely. Some of them were disillusioned with dating scenes in the west, where women did not give them a look; others recovering from a divorce or the death of a spouse.
Another man I spent a lot of time with was Stephen, a 62-year-old from Texas, long-divorced, who was on his 11th trip to Ukraine with the desperate hope of finding a wife.
"I want a companion, because there are things I would like to do back home, but I don't want to do them alone," he told me. "I want to see the Grand Canyon, but I don't want to see it on my own. I'm tired of having nobody to share my life with."
Stephen ended up meeting a pianist named Elena on the tour. On date two she told him she thought he could be her soulmate. By the end of the week he was sure he had found his future life partner. It was an expensive week, with the dinners, taxis, and payment for a translator all adding up, but Stephen was delighted that he had found love.
But love in Odessa is not all it seems. Perhaps 10 years ago, the scenario had been what I imagined, with men swooping in, and women keen to swap the hard grind of poverty-stricken Ukraine for a new life in the US, even if it was a ramshackle house in a North Dakotan town or a sleepy midwestern farm, rather than a Manhattan penthouse or LA beachfront home.
Now, it seems, things are different. None of the men I became close to on my tour ended up in lasting relationships, and the majority appeared to fall victim to a number of sophisticated scams.
I left Stephen ready to propose, but two months later he told me by email that it had all unravelled. The woman let him know she needed more time before making a commitment, but suggested that he return to Odessa and continue their expensive platonic dates.
Todd did not even get to the date stage; in retrospect, perhaps a lucky escape. The women took their cut of cash for chatting with him, but did not answer his calls when he arrived. He later wrote to me: "It took me about a month to process what happened and get over it. I've decided to close that chapter in my life and move on. I am now concentrating on me and my life and to do things that make me a better person. And to pursue the other hopes and dreams that I have. Will I ever find my other half? One can only wonder. At least I can say I tried. If I die a bachelor, so be it."
'Emotional prostitution'
I was able to uncover exactly how the scams work due to a chance encounter with Alina, one of the women involved, who felt weighed down by her collusion in what she called "emotional prostitution". She explained the whole sordid array of techniques, from a light impersonalised online-chatting version to a full-service chauffeur-driven platinum fraud, where men are rinsed of cash for a full week in Odessa, thinking they are cementing a lifelong relationship while actually they are being strung along on platonic dates that end with them dispatched to the airport with heavy hearts and empty wallets. Many of them come with ridiculous expectations, of course, but I am not sure that anyone deserves this treatment.
For the women as well, although hundreds of them make a living from the scams, it is not an easy psychological burden to bear. Alina was evidence of that, and 29-year-old Chris, the tour's youngest member, found that when he confronted his date with accusations about the nature of the business, she burst into tears and said she felt awful, but needed the money to support her mother after her father had died. Other women were genuinely looking for a young and interesting partner and wanted to leave Ukraine, but spent hours chatting with elderly men in order to make money.
Anastasia International, while not directly colluding in the scams, runs a highly profitable business model that allows them to flourish. While real and lasting liaisons do occasionally form through the site, more often it only serves to increase the concentric circles of mistrust, disappointment and heartbreak for all involved. Anastasia insists that it weeds out scams whenever it finds them, and has banned some women from the site. It also says it will reimburse clients who fall victims to scams, and provides advice on how to avoid them.
Larry Cervantes, the company spokesman, wrote to me after the tour: "It's true that some of these guys are spending money they don't have. But guys go broke in the US chasing American women, as do Brits chasing Brits. So what's the difference? Throughout history men have pursued the unattainable, and throughout history they've made fools of themselves. How is this any different?"
But the difference, of course, is that the company is making a huge profit from the men making fools of themselves, and while many women are making money out of the schemes too, it is not clear that it is beneficial to them in the longer term.
Far from ending the practice, the recent unrest in Ukraine has only enhanced it. Alina told me that her friends working in the business are expecting several American men to arrive in the coming days, while the less discreetly named sugardaddyforme says it has seen record numbers of Ukrainian women sign up in recent months. The new Ukrainian government has rather a lot on its plate, but ending the trade in emotional exploitation is something they should tackle sooner rather than later.
Shaun Walker's ebook on the Ukrainian marriage industry (Info in link below about Shaun Walker's ebook, at this site we give advices free and not sell anything therefore done like this)"
(However it exist other few good honest date sites Online also, that have low monthy subscriptions cost, and free date sites exist honest few good ones, avoid pay by letter translation fee date sites, and date sites with low reputation or bad).
Important to meantioned or adress people are not naive or stupied Americans or stupied Worldwide men, victims for so sophisticated scams as Uadreams and other similair etc. Only the scammers are evil or stupied until regrett and do right and ask the people and God of Forgivness, and Repent, and Repay all money they scammed of men Worldwide with intrest because of all emotionally damaged in many cases years of deception and years of grief emotionally and thousends dollars spended, scammed of... for a false dream of marriage with the wonderful Ukrainian girl Or Russian girl and honesty and faithfulness etc for life in Marry with her..., and in some cases scam date sites with their scam date agencies in 95 percent also impersonate Ukrainian and Russian girls the scam agencies with the scam sites do to 95 percent with their working paid 95 percent girls, who has local boyfriends or is married, with family kids, in Ukraine and Russia maybe as well, while tricking Western men Worldwide believing they are singel seeking man abroad Worldwide while Earning a living on credits purchasing by Western men on these scam date online site that charges per translate fee per letter etc... Only if sending money to anyone not know in person or meet in real, that is a stupied thing to do, but it does never mean any victim is stupied ever, so we at this Blog do not agree with Stupied calling of people or name calling of people that proberly got scammed, they do not need to be hurted anymore..., they need help mutual support and comfort and advices and prayers and to be meet by mutual compassionate friendly kind love and understanding and respect, what to do and how not to remain in the scam and legal advices to get these crooks behind bars, jail, infront of court, then jail, if possible, and when and if ready, tips on where they can find serious honest Online date sites and agencies, if they feel up to move on. The scammed victims of date scams or any other type of scams or fraud do not need name calling as some do, however otherwise good info StupiedAmerican provides, hopefully the ones behind StupiedAmerican repents of this calling people bad names, not their fault they got scammed, they innocent victims in this! Otherwise we thanks StupiedAmerican group for all info and excellent info etc and advices, but learn to act and behave, towards others scammed victims in general thanks, this of course applies towards all people in same attitude problems towards victims or various forms of scams and frauds... Very important to hard adress its never the victims fault they got scammed, ever, its always the scammer who is evil or stupied until repent and do better and repay all money to all scammed victims Worldwide etc, not the other way around, never blame the victims, only in some other cases victims can have done bad choices, but its still never the victims fault they got scammed. Its not a crime to believe in honesty in others. Some choices might been bad or naive people do, but none deservs to be scammed because of it, or blamed for beeing scammed, or called bad names. Also founder or founders of Stupiedamericans group is not stupied even if he or themselfs wanna call themself stupied... for falling for various date scams or date agencies with their online date scam sites etc, not their fault, but the scammers or date scams. Well its their choice if they wanna call themself degrading words such as stupied, they can call themself what they want, but its not ok to degrade others down at same low level, of name calling!, only the scammers are evil or stupied, not the victims, they are always innocent, even if some might done bad choices in other cases, but it still do not make the victims guilty of beeing scammed ever, they are still and always innocent, and do not deserv to get scammed ever, nomatter regarding of their choices! Especially not for so sophisticated date scams 95 percent as Uadreams.com date scams witch is so hard to detect at first sight, and other similair date scam agencies with their online date scams etc. If the scammers repent and do the right things, and repay the victims all their money back then they are not evil or stupied anymore if ask honestly of forgivness to to all they scammed or date scammed with date scam agencies with their online date scam sites etc. Otherwise again we thanks StupiedAmerican group for all info and excellent info etc and advices, but learn to act and behave, towards others, thanks. We are here at this Blog to support the people Worldwide not break them down even more by name calling and accuse them beeing stupied like its their own fault..., when they already is broken down by the scams... Thanks. It is never the victims fault of a scam or getting scammed, its always the scammers fault, who do the crimes, thanks. Uadreams (Uadreams.com) do not join Elenamodels (Elenamodels.com) reviews below. More Uadreams.com reviews: 95 percent scams of Uadreams:
There are also websites claiming (with evidence) that is a scam.
It doesn't really matter about review sites. UaDreams' marketing strategy is to simply send employees out to the sites to rebut negative reviews. Gentlemen, please use common sense. UaDreams is a scam. So is AnastasiaDate. So is Find-bride.com, NatashaClub (My add not entierly scam read this, great tips, but be caution in if doing this: http://www.ukrainiandatingstories.com/natasha-club-review-by-tom/, usually every scam date site online has around 5 percent true honest girls not getting paid so agencies with their 95 scam sites that have translation fee for every letter is not easilly getting caught by authorites or Police etc ), HotRussianBrides and any site that makes you pay by the letter or for every minute of chatting.
They are the worst of the worst. I have run my kit and I have found women who have boyfriends and/or husbands. They pay their women just like every other scam site. My team has already found local agencies in Ukraine advertising for women to come to their sites for work. Not for dating. Read this advertising from local agencies in Ukraine;
Wanted attractive girls as models from 18 to 35 years old to register a marriage agency. Good opportunity to earn and to find to men. As a nice bonus get - flowers, gifts, expensive restaurants and a free photo session. No sex. Real men meeting with only optional! ZP -% of earnings profiles. welcomes the willingness to work as a model and interpreter in video chat (not necessarily knowledge of English, the site has automatic translators). ZP significantly higher! For inquiries, please contact Looking forward to your posts!
PHOTOSESSION free, give you all the photos!
UaDreams will lie until Judgement Day. They will lie with their dying breath to keep the money flowing. The pricing model is no different than any other scam site, so why would we expect honest service? And this is the most insidious thing. You will be at an honest site, talking with women, meeting women who are real. Then a model like creature will contact you. She will make up some story about not feeling safe, or her computer blew up, or not understanding english. She will trick you into giving her your personal contact info. SHE WILL NEVER GIVE YOU HERS!!!!! Then the next thing you know you are back in scam central. You are stuck in yet another site, where the lady is protected from your view. She comes to work at UaDreams to get you to chat. Then she goes back to her normal life just like you never existed. You will be stuck looking at emails that are probably not from her, having conversations with a translator, and looking at pretty pictures. You will never know anything about her. When you finally find her on vk.com. She will not respond to you. They don't even allow people who are not friends to even message them.
It is all the same. A gigantic scam and we are Stupid Americans for participating.
Unlike the positive reviewers of UaDreams, you can contact me. I am not invisible. I do not disappear. I am on facebook, on vk, and at google +. I am David Brunner, The Stupid American. You see, we can only move forward on the truth. It might be painful and unpleasant. But most of the women at UaDreams do not want you, do not like you, and do not want to know you. They just want your money. If there are honest women at UaDreams, those few, you can meet at a free dating site or at least women who are like them.
You see, no one pays me to post reviews. I get no fee for chatting. I am not an employee of a scam garbage site posting a fake review. And if any of these supposed clients of UaDreams cares to step out into the daylight to do battle. .
Matt:Anyone have reliable information on whether or not that site is legit?
< Hi Matt, As a general rule, stay far away from sites where you yourself don't control what information goes in and out. Even if the lady do excist, your correspondence goes no further than to the translators in the office. They are paid to keep the correspondence going and will write only what you (and the lady want to hear - if she by chance should know about you...). Always remember, this is a business. It's not about getting you married asap, if that happens, you stop writing and they lose revenue... Cynical? Naaaa...only welcome to internet dating... It's far better to use free sites like this one, or paying sites where you can correspond directly (without any agency translation), share phone #, Skype, whatever. Only remember, scammers and sites like UA Dreams are fishing for clients on ALL sites. You, and we all, will just have to use our common sense and not buy into all we are told, no matter how beautiful the lady is Like Nick from this site once said 'be skeptical even if you are in bed with the lady'...
Uadreams (Uadreams.com) do not join Elenamodels (Elenamodels.com) reviews below. More Uadreams.com reviews: "Long Ranger on said: This agency is a real scam , being there my self face to face , the girls meet guys from all over in a weekly basis , the agency care not for you but for how much you will leave on their pockets $$$$ and the girls get paid from the agency a few dollars , i’ meet two of then in two different cities , and one was nicer then the other but , the out come the same , they get paid and you go home with empty wallet ! you ask then how they feel a bout you and this is what they said, ho my heart is not ready yet , i’ not sure !! after i’ have expend a hole year talking to the via web cam and letters ! what a joke ." "Lui on said: This is what I wrote to Uadreams not long ago. Alina #2457. I received many beautiful and professionally written letter from Alina. At first, I thought she was a college graduate who study English as a major. NOT. You can check these letters out. They are still in my mail box. I request to see Alina about 1 year ago and was told she was “Not Available”. Let see, I receive all these lovely emails from her and she wants to be with me. yet, when I am willing to travel across the world to see her she is too busy to see me? I finally saw her on chat and Alina have no interest in me. Bottom line, Alina didn’t write all these letters. It was the agency who wrote them without her knowledge. Some of these letters were pre-written to be use again on naive men Guys, we should laugh at ourselves for being naïve. ;) Alina, the English major when she works part time as DJ in a night club." "Lui on said: This is nothing but a scam. Everything single letter is written by the agency and NOT by the girl. If you write a simple letter and include information such as your favorite color is blue and you grew up in Idaho. You will get a love letter back from the agency. Now you ask your girl during video chat “what is your favor color” or “where did you grow up?” Your love interest will not know the answers. Why? she never read the letter. The agency called me “rude” but I told her that it is a scam because the girl know nothing about me. Uadreams never inform the girl any of my information. Try my method. Don’t be stupid my friends. Hope this help you naïve men out there." "Scott Anderson on said: I’ve said before, eventually, over time, the truth comes out about everything. I’ve heard from dozens of guys what a scam this agency is ~ it seems that the only people defending the site are those who have spent thousands there. I suppose that it is human nature to deny failure; no one wants to admit when they’ve been burned. This site is a knowledge platform for men seeking an alternative to Western feminist-minded women. And with that in mind, I thank you for your comment."
"Guy, how do you know you’ve been treated fairly by this agency (Uadreams.com)? You’ve never met any of the women. For all you know, Ivan at this agency has been writing to you for 3 years and he smiles every time your credit card transaction is approved again. I’ve received some hate mail from men-readers of this site about my post “No Game Whatsoever.” (my input: and seeСовет / Advice, Mafia Uadreams run of proberly....) Yes, it was perhaps a cruel post. But, it probably has saved some men making the trip and blowing five or ten thousand dollars on women who have no interest in them. Seriously Men, think about it. Expect that the dating process with an Eastern European Woman will be no different than if you meet on eHarmony or Match. You exchange a few emails, see if you have anything in common and then you meet. If you have chemistry, you date. If dating goes well, you make plans. Writing to women for months and months is silly. Guy also comments that this website can be trusted because they “screen for scammers.” Uh, Guy, what if the website (Uadreams.com) IS the scam? I believe that any dating agency (Uadreams.com or any other dating Agency) that “screens” your ability to contact the woman directly to be an outright fraud. You should NEVER pay money to chat with a woman if you can’t talk to her outside of the supervision of the dating agency. Put simply, if you can’t send her a message and ask for her phone number or email address (it is blocked by the agency) then it is a scam. An honest agency wants you to communicate with the woman – through their email system or outside of it. A scam agency (wherein you aren’t really talking with the woman) will never give you the woman’s contact info. BECAUSE YOU AREN’T REALLY TALKING TO THE WOMAN. Agencies that charge by the letter – a ‘translation’ fee – is a sure sign of a scam." http://www.westernwomensuck.com/2013/10/02/website-review-uadreams-com/ (Elenasmodels.com only good in past, can not be recommended now, Today, see below):
Girls are real, but it’s impossible to have private contacts with them. After mails, chats and 2 meetings, I found her adress. But she NEVER answered ! I sent a gift at home, she thanks me but always through UADREAMS site and never with a private mail, although I wrote it with the gift.
TAKE CARE…. THEY ARE JUST HERE TO TAKE YOUR MAONEY !!!!!!!!!!!!
Girls are real, but it’s impossible to have private contacts with them. After mails, chats and 2 meetings, I found her adress. But she NEVER answered ! I sent a gift at home, she thanks me but always through UADREAMS site and never with a private mail, although I wrote it with the gift.
I met 5 girls in total, but they all look under the control of the agency… As if they signed a contract with it !!!
TAKE CARE…. THEY ARE JUST HERE TO TAKE YOUR MONEY !!!!!!!!!!!!
Hello I just want to relate my experience with Diana at UA dreams 9799.I was corresponding and chatting with her for nearly a year and really grew to like her, only to find out I had been scammed, she even uploaded a xmas video 2012 I was on my way to meet her in Poltava and then she started to try and find things wrong with me, like saying a came across as being angry with her etc on the chat and told me I couldnt come to her flat when I arrived in Poltava,all sorts of excuses so I cancelled my trip losing 100s of dollars.
I wated close to $1000 dollars on UA, and also found Diana on VK, wouldnt make friends, could only follow and eventually blocked me completely.I would like to upload a pic of her so other guys can stay away from her lies.
I’m with uadreams 3 years, I have to say that I vk recording a total of 70 profiles found in women who are with the agency, some women know English and some are employed by the agency. there is a girls call VIKA #2460 and I found that the letter the she send me are all “copy-paste” and I have proof and actually make a website so that they can observe any real information it you can find the information of VIKA and other girls
http://www.ukrainiandatingstories.com/interest-on-ua-dreams-no-interest-on-vk-com/(Very intresting link info, many men in deep relations with same girl..., Uadream date 95 percent scam more or less, with paying girls to maybe 95 percent from its 95 percent scam agencies scam, see all comments below in link also, etc). And: Yes sadly most is faked conversations, faked letters etc, its proven through Ukrainian date expert blogger girl KRYSTYNA site: http://www.ukrainiandatingstories.com/uadreams-com-review/ (UAdreams scam men with mostly fake letters and fake conversations, not all is fake but many letters is... I also know following information on my own, the girls do often not write their own letters, did a test, some girls not intrested they said or similair in letters, and a few days later got video chat invitations from them, this happend in more then one occasion, meaning the girls do not write their own letters, and the real girls in profiles, might send out the video chat invitations, meaning maybe some few intrested, or just waning to get our money in correspondence, as most girls get paid by Agency for letters and Video chats etc). And: http://www.ukrainiandatingstories.com/ua-dreams-no-interest-scam/ (Also see all comments below in link, vital).
Hello everybody here. And again, I will never learn.... Recently I visited UA Dreams and spent some money there (lots of money) . The agency is 100% SCAM. Be carefull. These links say all for themselfs http://itccommunicationsnet-johnnichols ... mscom.html (My input very important link to see also) and http://itccommunicationsnet-johnnichols ... td-26.html If you however would like to try, you will see for youselves. Don't fall for this one. The visual appearance of their site is perfect, but beyond stands a liar, a thief, a traitor. I am so unhappy what these individuals made out of my beloved motherland. I would like to punish them, very hard and in very brutal way
"Note to Google - we are a member of delphi (RealMadrid) exposing scams and other members has requested that we duplicate as delphi is often hacked. Further the author was scammed by this companyand he has reported them both to Interpol and the Governor of Gibraltar where their company External Holding (Gibraltar) Limited is registered.
11 YEARS MAYBE $16.000 i wasted. my trip to simferopol was a total scam. here is my opinion!!! girls get paid buy translators. did you know they go to there homes?? thats a fact. there all on VK. russian Facebook. they all have great boyfriends. they do not like older men they do not like americans and they want money because there poor there. what a big mistake traveling there. i meet local friends who told me about this agency. my good friend called the girl and she came meet us. she left the agency when we exposed her. after i came she went on vacation!!! are you kidding me!!!! i sat there 2 weeks alone and she asked me to visit .they all just go away after time. in my opinion i am suing this agency for my money back and then damages. they are located in new york!!! main office. i did a study on them in that 11 years and there in no way they will get out of this one. i know who they are and were they are. buy all means go to ukraine and meet a girl on your own. its a neat place but you do not need an agency for sure. i meet local lads who i still talk with all the time on Facebook. its a scam guys. i beat you uadreams sends letters here its easy to log into. its a total wast of money and time. if your older looking for a young lady forget that. they do not like older men they have many young men there after them and they do not want to leave the ukraine thats a joke. i found most people there hate usa. they locals are great people though. very very poor country. they all try to take your money there for sure. i even have friends there ask me for money from here all the time. why!!! they have nothing there. they work 70 hour weeks and make about 120 USD for that. it is not my intent to hurt this agency buy only to provide my time there and what happened to me.. 11 years off and on about $16.000 i spent. not a single girl lasted and when i went there the girl did not know me after a year spending almost every day writing and every week chating. run guys!! as fast as you can
No way of ever knowing a lady for real unless you pay to chat and visit through them!
Do not get fooled by this. Dating sites are set up for two people to be able to find each other and then after a certain amount of communication then you can both feel comfortable with each other and then should be able to exchange personal details and take a relationship further. However UADreams will never ever allow you to exchange personal details unless you go over to visit. But then the only way you can arrange to visit the lady is by having to book the trip through them because if you was to do this by yourself then as you have no personal details you will never be able to arrange anything with the lady. The site is very professional but this is why many men will be fooled into paying more and more to the site and at the end of it all never find any relationship unless you continue to give them more money. Video chat in itself is recorded video and an staff member reading and feeding the information and even sending the reply's. Any real dating agency will match two people and then it is yourselves who will take and make the relationship serious if that is what both party want but when UADreams does not allow any involvement that does not involve you paying in money to them and so you will never find the lady of your dreams on here. After paying hundreds of Euros or Dollars you would expect to know a lady and both know if you want a relationship but as not ever being able to exchange personal details is a joke. And any man who would just go out and book a trip through UADreams whithout having first been able to have personal details exchanged should know that they are not going to have or get the serious relationship they are looking for. I read many reviews and gave the site the benefit of my doubt but when the same thing that others talk about happens to you it is then when you realise it is a scam and you will never be with the lady you imagine you have shared all the communication with!
Communicated with one lady, conversation seemed faked (reason below)
Oppinion based on communicating with one of the ladies, personal oppinion based on my experience on the site and later a little research into their methods: First of all, I'd like to explain why I chose this title: I was lucky that this particular lady forgot what she told me in previous letters. First, she told me she was an only child and later she wrote me how happy she was that her sister came to visit her. When confronted with that, communication stopped. I sadly found following enlightening post too late: If you do a little research on the internet you'll surely find interesting articles on their methods. In this particular article I found, you can see that many ladies on the site are "employed" by UADreams and can still be found on a well known russian facebook like site (many of them having boyfriends); though the smarter ones deactivate their profiles. I ended up wasting a lot of money over there anyway; the lady I was communicating with, knew what she was doing until the faux-pas: Conversations seemed really sincere and you truly get the impression you're building something. Who knows how long this would have dragged on if she didn't mess up her part. Besides that, she was very insistent on using the expensive video chat feature. In any case, please don't make the same mistake as many me and many others and waste money on a site where you pay A LOT for mail and video chat services. Look for love on a site that is either free or has a monthly subscription OR: What I'm gonna do: I'll start more social activities and who knows? Maybe the girl of my dreams can be found there. That's at least where my friends got to know their other halves :) To sum it up: There are better and more sincere ways to find your other half than this despicable site and business model, in my oppinion. I did not contact support for the incident with the lady since I didn't want to have anything to do with the company. I did contact them afterwards though to have my account deleted, though, which they did not do. Instead they offered me to turn it invisible. When contacting them again, they asked me why for a second time and again, offered only to turn it invisible, after which I gave up. Plus I asked them to unsubscribe me from their newsletter list, which they did for about 2 weeks after which I started receiving their newsletter again. They were easy enough to reach via mail and responses were fast even though they did not reply to my satisfaction.
Was tricked into this site by the most evil and lowest scam trick i have seen , and i have seen some (also lots of Ghana girl scam) A lady wrote me at another site and made me interrestet , she was beautifull and nice to talk to , she even asked me to visit her , later in the mails she asked for my email adress (no buzz about that , many ladys do ask ) right after her profile was closed . I asked the moderators and they told me that her account was closed due to scam behaviour AND NOT WITHOUT REASON , the next mail i got was from this scam site with paid models , who said that they had a request from one of their members to join her , yes it was Svetlana (or Igor , Ivan , stella ) or who that writes her letters , i was given a code so i could talk with her , but of course this smells so much of scam . why wouddent she write me private if she had my email , do they really think guys are that stupid. Dont think any normal guy will jump into this scam type , but be aware , everything that looks to good is to good , i bet the rest of the reviews at this site is made by the company itself . Shame on you that use peoples feelings in your sleeazy business Bet the ladys get paid for writting a certain number of letters .
Uadreams (Uadreams.com) more reviews:(Not easy getting over the emotionally damage, it could take many many years in worst cases, as these Scammers to 95 percent Uadreams do with its 95 percent paying working girls for their agency, and in this case also might scammed the girl):
you cannot trust any online datings site (Incorrect statement, by John N, true one cannot trust any online date sites that charge per letter translation fee, and those online date sites with low reputation or bad reputation, go for free sites or low monthly cost sites, with good or much better online reputation and no worries, exist still some few, but very few true good date sites still online, regarding Ukraine and Russia etc as well applies to other countries)
I had a very bad experience with uadreams. Visa refused to pay them so I lost contact with the only lady that I had written to over 18 months - in total 80 letters. I feel that both she and I were scammed. It has taken since 2007 to overcome the emotional grief. I had offered to travel to Donetsk and was refused. Earlier I offered to pay an outright fee to meet the lady in Germany where she was working but this request was ignored. In the later letters they were giving the impression that she had returned from Germany to the Ukraine by the Christmas, but it would appear that she was still working in Germany. There were too many mistakes on their part in the letters which gave them away
Love is between a couple and where third parties are involved they can interfere to protect their own financial benefits.
https://www.trustpilot.com/review/uadreams.com/5318e70d00006400027b9d78 (This good true honest review were deleted by scam 95 percent Uadreams company, falsely accused John N listed sensitive information, but did not and review of John N is reinstated, however some likes is because of that vanished... How it looked in past see, 10 Facebook likes, now above 0 Facebook likes... Uadreams 95 percent scammers always messes things up, it seams...:
(Again Incorrect statement by John N "you cannot trust any online datings site!", we however understand John N doubts. True one cannot trust any online date sites that charge per letter translation fee, and those online date sites with low reputation or bad reputation, go for free sites or low monthly cost sites, with good or much better online reputation and no worries, exist still some few, but very few true good date sites still online, regarding Ukraine and Russia etc as well applies to other countries).
(Reason no link to this testimonial is that I believe Trustpilot will delete this review, as they do with many honest true reviews, but the false positive remains of Uadreams, why they write it by agency people and paid testimonials fake, or paid actors, false testimonials... proberly..., and Uadreams pull the strings... Why they can fake order ids etc, they can claim whatever to Trustpilot, and it has also been said Trustpilot is not the best honest review site out there...
Its what some or maybe many or much more proberly then just 2 or 3 or 4 persons online or people Online says, witch we believe have much truth or merit in it... Added here 2015-04-10 Vital: However our personally experience on this website have been VERY POSITIVE WITH TRUSTPILOT, they, Trustpilot, have overall acted more then very good towards us and the truth about Uadreams scams, and seamingly genuine wanna expose Uadreams for what scammers they really are. So overall we do HIGHLY recommend Trustpilot overall, based on our personally experience towards us. Even if you disagree with this, they treated us at this website exposing Uadreams letter translation fee scam as well as many others in same low level of letter translation fee date scam sites with their scam agencies and scam translator and scam working Ukrainian and Russian girls, scamming you of your heard money earned in chatting with them and video chat, they get percentage of what you spend in paying for the scam pay by letter translation fee date sites with their scam agencies, they the girls in those scam date sites pay by letter sites translation fee, do not seeking after love or huspand abroad, as they are married some and some have local boyfriends, and of if any girl is singel, they are still only intrested in to robb you of your money, in decieving you follow the false dream of love and future and happy marriage, of the Ukrainian and Russian girls more then 90 percent or more then 95 percent scams like this togheter with the agencies and sites of the scam letter translation fee date sites Online and Offline they operate of course etc... Beeing poor is no excuse for doing evil, or scamming genlemen Worldwide like this crush their hearts by a false hope or a dream of a happely ever after dream marriage for life forever and ever until death splitts us apart etc, they set up..., a false hope, a false dream, and ontop on that also robb them, gentlemen all over the World of all their hard earned money until their very last dime... Personally know few crimes that abuse anyone like this so hard emotionally and finacelly loss, if buying this lie of the this type of scams... Can take years to get over this or some might be damaged for life, unable to ever mend or move on, but is brokenhearted deep inside, its not the same as not forgiven those who hurted you, and moved on, it just shows remained hurts of this type of scams (of course all types of scams hurts, but playing with peoples emotions like this, hurts hardest in the long run, in some cases hurts for life). (In some cases agencies also impersonate girls by stealing their photos etc from Facebook maybe etc, creating fake profiles, and in those cases girls are totally innocent and unaware, not knowing they are on a date site seeking men abroad, also some few of the serious girls in those scam pay by letter translate fee sites like 5 percent or less, is also sometimes impersonated by agency people without them knowing... And of the girls in those scam by letter translation fee date sites, gentlemen writes to, agency people responds and write back, impersonate them, the girls in their profiles, witch is initself a crime, playing someone you are not,, or posing off as. Again of the girls in those scam by letter translation fee date sites, gentlemen writes to, agency people responds and writes back, impersonate them, and not the girl in the profiles or profiles photos etc, writes their own letters, to you... In worst cases the girl know almost nothing about you, but, hey they still only wanted your money, so they do not care about you, even if they known about you and your letters etc...(some girls knows some about you and maybe 1 letter in 10 they type... and know maybe about 1 letter in response of 10...), but to not getting caught on dates in real life agencies uses their translators to fill the girl in of their conversations with the gentlemen before the date in Ukraine or Russia etc, and translator also lie twist things and translate wrong to controll all things in orders from the Scam pay by letter translation fee sites with their agencies scams might also be Russian Mafia controlled etc, also video chats can be faked, recorded with hand movements etc programmed more about that above or below on this website, BBC NEWS also exposed this trickery, evil, cunning, deceit, scamming operations etc). Now back to talk about Trustpilot. Personally one thing some people maybe not all, but some seam to falsely accuse Trustpilot, having their own agenda or competitiors maybe, however some truth of it, is in their alligations against them, Trustpilot, not all, but some truth, and this is proven out, from Article from theguardian.com VERY TRUSTWORTHY SOURCE etc: http://www.theguardian.com/money/2013/jan/26/fake-reviews-plague-consumer-websites (Updated 2015-02-13 as soon as finded this info: Trustpilot have now removed the ability for People to post Facebook comments in regards to the reviews of Companies and their products and services etc Worldwide listed on their Trustpilot review site, we believe this is an action of them Trustpilot to hide much truth about the other bad companies they Trustpilot list in their review site Worldwide and maybe about themselfs Trustpilot, because there is proberly to high percent more then much truth in that people online says with proof, see the links about Trustpilot, that Trustpilot is not an honest review site, and they might wanna hide the truth people post in Facebook comments about other bad companies they Trustpilot lists in ther review site and maybe about themselfs aswell Trustpilot etc.... ) Generally rule, the bad reviews of Uadreams is true, and the Positive is false, written of Agency people or paid false testimonials by Agency... Uadreams can also fake reviews by confirming all forms or Order ids to be posted on Trustpilot... Generally regarding Trustpilot many good reviews is fakes, (not in all cases but many regarding companies with low or bad reputation generally online, can also refer to offline companies if its reviewed online, with bad generally reputation or low reputation etc): See (however not sure about Trustpilot, sometimes good sometimes bad, but believe some truth is in these following reviews, as seen they always delete the truth negative reviews about scam companies it seams, and keep the false fakes positives of scam companies in generally, because the scam companies control the order ids needed now to post reviews, and can lie and scam controlling the order ids): Also see comments made by many people in links, contains somewhat vital info, all forms of scams or dishonesty Worldwide mainly regarding dating scams online, but still it will be exposed at this blog, some things in other fields as well, Trustpilot, is no exception!!! To warn the People Worldwide etc: http://www.complaintsboard.com/complaints/trustpilotcouk-deceit-by-trustpilot-by-writing-good-fake-reviews-c615088.html (Think on the language not to take Gods name in vain or Wordly Cussing or other unbiblically evils, Repent, Otherwise Good info in the link, as General Biblically rule for us all, aswell, God bless) and https://www.davidnaylor.co.uk/google-how-can-you-trust-www-trustpilot-co-uk.html and http://www.frustratedcustomers.co.uk/complaints_detail.php?SETparam=aWQ9d2U1c25xa2drYmh3aXo3MHV0ZmN0 and http://www.theguardian.com/money/2013/jan/26/fake-reviews-plague-consumer-websites (Links vital info see all)
they are placing fake profiles on other dating sites and marriage agencies, contact men pretending
to be a girl on the pictures, ask for their private email address (sneaky!), then send them e-mail asking to go register on uadreams
for further correspondence and PAID translation services.
Needless to say,
the girl doesn't exist (or she is an employee of the agency), and you will be corresponding with an operator. Old scheme. Luckily, my members are always on alert and reported this crap
to me promptly. This is the copy of email sent to one of my members (private info shadowed):
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Uadreams support team <mailing@uadreams.com> Date: Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 4:33 PM Subject: xxx, Anna from Ukraine invited you to the International Matchmaking Agency! To: xxxx
<http://uadreams.com/?pr=fl_darina> Welcome to the International Matchmaking Agency!Dear Steve You've been invited to http://www.uadreams.com<http://uadreams.com/login.rpx?login=xxx&pass=xxx&pr=fl_darina>at the request of [image: Anna from Kremenchug, Ukraine girl pictures]<http://uadreams.com/login.rpx?login=xxx&pass=xxx&pr=xxx> Anna T. from Kremenchug, Ukraine *Your account information *(it will help you to see photos from all ladies in our database): login: xxx password: xxx *Any your questions will be answered in our* Support Centre<http://uadreams.com/support.rpx> : +1 (315) 849-4959 Skype <http://skype.com/> phone account: *uadreams* *No one can know where he will meet his love!* You can login here:http://uadreams.com/login.rpx<http://uadreams.com/login.rpx?login=xxx&pass=xxx&pr=fl_darina> If you think it was done in error then just ignore this message. Sincerely, Uadreams Support Team.
Notice that fl_darina thingy in URL? that's the tracking id of the operator, so it gets paid. also, do google search on them, see how many men were scammed there!! STAY AWAY!!!!!
Everything has been perfectly said by Marisa... 100% SCAM AGENCY certainly they place false profiles on other sites. they may also exchange datas with other sites. in any case the girls on uadreams
do not exist. thus not realistic at all. stolen pictures to attract fool men. yes marisa you talk with staff operator of the site not the
girl of the photo. they place professional pictures of women. testimonies are fake like everything else in this site. look the announces in women's profile and see how it does not sound
natural at all. a friend of mine finally discovered it was a scam after many money spent. he really thought he discussed with this woman!
no direct contact with her is red flag already. losing time and money for a thief site and agency. i recommend every man to avoid registering this crap!
interesting testimony from a blogger who knew uadreams manager “I had a contact who was working in UA Dreams. And she said that mails are written by translators,
girls don't even know that somebody are sending mails from their accounts. On other hand, girls sometimes go to such agencies to get free professional photos. But they have to sign a contract, by which they have to answer on calls, than foreign clients calling them.” “Hello xxxxx I am so sad and even angry to hear such awful news! I do not have any relations with ualadys/uadreams
after winter! I had bad relations with that agency, because the director and the owner of agency are not true people! They write letters by themsel without women! I thought that they removed me from the agency! But they did not do it! And can you imagine?
That they have found? my photos and copy them, from such site as odnoklassnik! Do you know about it?
It is like ISQ? but here you can find your friends and classmates! I do not know what to do ! I called to the agency, but secretary said that she did not know anything! So, I hope that you will believe me! I do not have reason to lie to you and to write to you through the agency, as I write to you by myself! We can do an expariment! My favorite flower is white tulip and my favorite food is cheese!
Ask these questions to me through the AGENCY! You will see that the answers are not correct! I hope that you will not write to that unfair agency! They even talk girls do not speak by English, even if you know! Dasha” what a agency
Also said by another reviewer with lots of experience it seams: "UADREAMS have girls on there website who do not even belong to the agency!" by M-A-G-S Uadreams.com with all there other extensions is on that reviewers Blacklist. (However that reviewer might be decieved in some other things, but this seam to be very true, but because of some other things doubtful listed of that another reviewer. Not know gender surely of that another reviewer, but proberly a male overall good very truthful reviewer, with tons of experience, spotting out the good vs bad date sites online with their agencies etc).
I want to tell my story about UaDreams. I have been in the romance scam industry for about four years. I started to understand that all of these sites are bad places at the beginning of last year. So I started to go to places that were recommended by honest people on the internet such as ruadventures.com. I alsomet a man on vk who helped me out. Well, I was at a site called rosebrides.com. I saw a very cute lady named Alla. She was a bit young, but I decided to send her an expression of interest message. To my surprise she responded. So we talked for a few messages. Then she claimed that all this time she was using google translate to talk to me. She was having a big problem with the online translator. She said there was better translation services. She asked for my email address and I thought we were going to become closer. I am naive. I thought this pretty woman would just give me a link to a person or a service that does cheap translations. But she lied. She sent an invite to UaDreams. Because it is forbidden to do that at rosebrides.com, so she got my personal email. She needed it to send the invite. In the invitation you can see her id#, I guess that is how they track who she brings in. The invite that she sent reads like this,
"Dear Bruce, you have been invited by Alla from Cherkassy for continuance of your communication".
"Continuance". So this is a sanctioned action by Uadreams. They are all in on the scam. I was already paying to be at rosebrides.com. I liked the site. It was a good site that was well worth the money. Uadreams, created a false profile at the site and used it to engage me in a conversation with a pretty lady. The plan was to lure me away. Women at rosebrides are not as beautiful as Alla. But I have met some who are honest. I have met women who skype with me or talk to me on the telephone. Alla never gave me her email address, phone number, or anything. She disappeared to UaDreams.
Foolishly and against the recommendation of friends, I chatted with her. She was at home and smiling so brightly. I told her about my suspicions. She just dismissed them. She kept talking about how UaDreams gives her free English lessons and has translation services. She claimed she was "safe" there. Yes, she was so safe there, that she left to come to rosebrides.com to find me. She also claimed she had no idea about how expensive the service was.
I tried to lay out some ground rules for our conversation. I told her that I was not going to chat much and I would write seldom. But now I think I will just ask for UaDreams to delete my account. She obviously wants nothing to do with me. My friend found Alla on vk and on ok.ru. She did not have a boyfriend in her profile, but I have the feeling she has a man. UaDreams would never tell me or refund my money even if she did. They don't allow me to know anything about her. I have enough information from my friend to have a private investigator find out. But what is the point? I tried contacting her on vk.com, but of course, she just ignored me. She only wants the money that UaDreams gives her for talking to her.
I guess that is what bothers me so much. They just don't care. Alla has profiles at other websites, I could go to those other sites too. But again, what the point? I would simply be paying another site a lot for money for the same result. If Alla wanted me, she would not hide from me. She contacted me at rosebrides.com. Now she cannot speak to me outside of UaDreams. It is funny isn't it? She was sending letters out to all kinds of men at rosebrides, now she is hidden at UaDreams. I guess when I delete my account, she will go back to another honest site and try to lure another man back to UaDreams.
I talked to UaDreams support, but I got the same stuff you get at all the scam sites. They are protecting the women, etc. The women like their services, etc. They do not explain why they send these "women" out to other websites to find men. Especially when they are supposedly "protecting" them. They talk about how it is forbidden to talk to these women outside of UaDreams. That is a lie. Alla talked to me at rosebrides. And if I went to her other scam site, I am sure she would talk to me there.
So yes, UaDreams in my opinion is just the same as all the other expensive pay sites in the industry. It is a scam.
The more you pay, the less safe you are, and the more likely you are not to find love. .
My lady at rosebrides is coming to see me next week. Imagine that? A lady is going to pay to come to see me. That will never happen at UaDreams. Not in a million years.
And at rosebrides.com, I paid $50 for a month of services. I could speak with anyone I pleased. Some were scammers yes, but they had to ask me for money because rosebrides is not paying them.
I was alerted to come here because I had reviewed uadreams long ago, but somehow my review isdeleted. , I am posting this again and will speak to management about this. My experience with uadreams started about two years ago. Like most of the men here I was at ukrainian dating sites trying to date ukrainian or russian women. I had stoppedgoing to pay sites long ago. But I had a few favorites sites where I met some ukrainian women who lived in kiev. I was contacted by a beautiful blonde lady and we started talking. I can't remember what happened but somehow she ask me for my personal info and I sent her my email. I got an invite to uadreams. I went to the site, saw what it was and deleted her email and all of her information. Then last year, I was at another website and another lady did the same thing to me. I went to the website but this time I looked around. I didn't buy any chat minutes or anything. I sent a few emails for free, but it was easy to see this was another scam site. Anastasiadate does the same thing as this site. If you look at my reviews, I do not recommend any of these sites. The websites I use are not even listed at site jabber. I use free sites or monthly ones. I think next year, I will use a marriage agency. But all of these dating sites are terrible scams. I have plenty of money, the expense is not a problem for me. But I don't have time to play around with kids on the internet. I am getting old and want to have someone to spend some years with. These sites waste so much of my time.
Another scam site. UaDreams is more insidious than AnastasiaDate. It engages in the practice of "fishing" for eligible men at good sites, (rosebrides.com, bridesandlovers.com, etc.) They create a profile of a beautiful woman at a good site, then they engage you in conversation for a couple of days, then something happens. Their computerbreaks down and they have to go to an "agency" to talk with you. Or they claim they need "translation services". It does not matter, she asks you for your email address. The next thing you know you get an email to join UaDreams to talk to her. It is the last time you will hear from that lady without UaDreams involved. Because she disappears. She runs to the site, she never gives you an email address, a phone number, or social media profile. And UaDreams will not give out any information on a profile of a woman who is bringing in the money.
This same story has been repeated hundreds if not thousands of times.
Besides that I finally "cracked" UaDreams, I pulled a number of profiles of women with husbands and/or boyfriends. The great thing about scammers is that they are all greedy. UaDreams does a great job of hiding the women in social media. The problem is the women they employ are just as money hungry as they are. Once you know the nature of a thing, you can predict its behavior.
1000% scam. The most expensive dating site you will ever use and gentlemen, you cannot meet a woman there. There is no love there. No joy. No happiness and no hope.
Leave this site and if you are not there, thank God, the Almighty, that you have not been suckered into this agency.
I want to add this bit here;
They are the worst of the worst. I have run my kit and I have found women who have boyfriends and/or husbands. They pay their women just like every other scam site. My team has already found local agencies in Ukraine advertising for women to come to their sites for work. Not for dating. Read this advertising from local agencies in Ukraine;
Wanted attractive girls as models from 18 to 35 years old to register a marriage agency. Good opportunity to earn and to find to men. As a nice bonus get - flowers, gifts, expensive restaurants and a free photo session. No sex. Real men meeting with only optional! ZP -% of earnings profiles. welcomes the willingness to work as a model and interpreter in video chat (not necessarily knowledge of English, the site has automatic translators). ZP significantly higher! For inquiries, please contact Looking forward to your posts!
PHOTOSESSION free, give you all the photos!
UaDreams will lie until Judgement Day. They will lie with their dying breath to keep the money flowing. The pricing model is no different than any other scam site, so why would we expect honest service? And this is the most insidious thing. You will be at an honest site, talking with women, meeting women who are real. Then a model like creature will contact you. She will make up some story about not feeling safe, or her computer blew up, or not understanding english. She will trick you into giving her your personal contact info. SHE WILL NEVER GIVE YOU HERS!!!!! Then the next thing you know you are back in scam central. You are stuck in yet another site, where the lady is protected from your view. She comes to work at UaDreams to get you to chat. Then she goes back to her normal life just like you never existed. You will be stuck looking at emails that are probably not from her, having conversations with a translator, and looking at pretty pictures. You will never know anything about her. When you finally find her on vk.com. She will not respond to you. They don't even allow people who are not friends to even message them.
It is all the same. A gigantic scam and we are Stupid Americans for participating.
Unlike the positive reviewers of UaDreams, you can contact me. I am not invisible. I do not disappear. I am on facebook, on vk, and at google +. I am David Brunner, The Stupid American. You see, we can only move forward on the truth. It might be painful and unpleasant. But most of the women at UaDreams do not want you, do not like you, and do not want to know you. They just want your money. If there are honest women at UaDreams, those few, you can meet at a free dating site or at least women who are like them.
You see, no one pays me to post reviews. I get no fee for chatting. I am not an employee of a scam garbage site posting a fake review. And if any of these supposed clients of UaDreams cares to step out into the daylight to do battle. .
let him try. . .
UaDreams is attempting to respond to me here.
Okay Mr. UaDreams Rep. . .will you admit that the women at your site are compensated based on how many letters they get the men to write and how long they can keep a man in chat????
As for your testimonials, when will you let us question them!?!?!? Why is there no contact information listed for all these men??? If they are so "happy" with your service surely they would give you free advertising and speak about their experience everywhere they could.
You claim that no service is 100%. I am sure it is not. I am pretty sure it isn't even 5%. Explain why should an American pay over a thousand a month just to talk to one woman with no guarantee that she is even interested in talking to a foreigner????
Your organization is the lowest of the low. And I am going to do everything I can to expose you. If you are so honest, so decent, and so concerned about making sure people find love, then I will surely fail..
Tip for consumers: UaDreams is attempting to respond to me here. Okay Mr. UaDreams Rep. . .will you admit that the women at your site are compensated based on how many letters they get the men to write and how long they can keep a man in chat???? As for your testimonials, when will you let us question them!?!?!? Why is there no contact information listed for all these men??? If they are so "happy" with your service surely they would give you free advertising and speak about their experience everywhere the
I've been on site for years now and so many things just don't add up, 1. to chat it cost for the Translator, 2. sending a letter cost per letter, 3. I sent a letter that I had translated and was told that it should be left up to their translation staff to do and yes you pay for that, 4. you have to pay for every photo that she sends you butno one is paying for your photo which is free to upload but extra photos will cost you to post, 5. to send a gift cost so much it's hard to want to send something when that same item cost less here at home and should cost even less over there, 6. she needs to learn English but they ask you to pay for it, . . . so what do you get for free . . . 1. make a calendar, 2. the first letter if you send it to her first, 3. to mark off which women you like, 4. the video where she tells you what she is looking for (by Translator) . . .. so what if you find her off site . . . she won't or can't talk to you ! If she talks off site should be a plus because then you'll use the site more but off site they act like they don't know you so yes I'm so disappointed in many of the fee's they have and even when someone that I was talking to just up and left the site and I was given no reason but I was out of the funds it cost to chat then she's gone just seems like a scam is going on, the one lady who wrote me many times asking me to video chat or even to write her seems if she really wanted to be with me she would have talked off site with me and asked me to come talk to her on site where she could understand me all the more better but she said nothing.
Total scam. The women just want you to pay for letters and video chats. They don't really want to meet you. Don't be seduced by these beautiful women. They just want your money. (Uadreams agencies pay their girls, almost all girls work for agency.. and some or many of the girls have local boyfriends in Ukraine or Russia... Just a work for the girls in Uadreams and all other date scam pay by letter "translation fee", pay scam agencies to scam forigne men...)
Uadreams (Uadreams.com) more reviews: http://www.complaintslist.com/2013/denouncing-scamming-dating-site-uadreams-com/ And: http://www.complaintslist.com/2013/expensive-online-dating-on-uadreams-com/ (I do not recommend UAdreams, its scam with its agencies and paid girls chat videochat letters etc, in 95 percent more or less, but 5 percent of the girls is honest and is not getting paid any money, and is singel, and is honest and serious, but the hard problem is to sort out the real from the false and fake 95 percent Uadreams.com with its agencies scams... However those who claims of these few 5 percent marriages happends, need to backup that with atleast 2 years proof of happy marriage, and prove no gold digging happend from wife through agency and no Visa scams happend (this can happend in normally marriage without meeting through agencies, but proberly not as often).
Uadreams (Uadreams.com) more reviews: "WO says November 18 at 10:24am 2014 says "Dear All, i can tell you, that i was 45 times in Ukraine... lost 200,000 €.... and all is a big betray. I can write a complete book about all the Information.... proved Information! Girls are paid to meet men." Vital read heed: https://www.facebook.com/AnastasiaDateExperience/posts/508637122606367
Uadreams (Uadreams.com) more reviews:
Another unhappy www.uadreams.com (External Holding Gibraltar) Limited. client!!!
anonymous from United States .
YES, IT IS TRUE, UADREAMS IS A SCAM. In 2010 I went to visit several ladies, one who I spoke with in video chat over 20 times and was waiting for me to visit. What a disaster. Does this sound suspicious to you? .
The two ladies that I met were very nice and interested, but came up with various excuses why they could not give their private email (they don't have one or, the agency does not allow until a first meeting which we had). ..
I must say this, it is an amazingly well performed scam. Clearly, the ladies are getting paid for their time and that's why they do it and then try to duck any real meetings or make it one brief one with excuses to end it or get more money. .
What an utter joke. BUYER BEWARE. The ladies are real, beautiful, and nice, but they are scamming you for every cent of your money and when the well dries up, or you come to visit, so will the fantasy end. .
Uadreams (Uadreams.com) more reviews: Uadreams Reviewer Opm Jes • 6 days ago False testimony proberly of agency people or paid agency testimonials fake. Even if meeting went well it means absolutely nothing, as you might meet a prodate girl, wanting you to chatt mess on Uadreams to get percentage of your money you paid Uadreams, same goes for translation fees in real meeting and taking squeeze you on money on taking you to expensive resturants etc. Come back after testimonial with proof by video both you and lady after at least 2 years happy marriage, without any Visa scams... And only then do we believe you, that you are of those few 5 percent Agency do have to make it look real, to not be caught to ovious, by authorities, they need to have small percentage real, in order to keep business going, so some few percent of the girls are real with honest intentions not getting paid, but its hard to find those real girls like 5 percent of the rest 95 percent scamming Uadreams operation or Uadreams scam date site!!! And even in the 5 percent real girls with honest intentions, translators still may inpersonate them without them knowing if they are unable to come to office or type their own responses to forigne men etc... Do not report these kinds of fake reviews positive of agency people proberly, as as long as you "claim" the happy meetings occure and correspondence they just squeeze you scam you of your money, the girls are good actors, they are only intrested in one thing your money, not you... They have local ukraine boyfriends most and some are married. See my other posts and wake up. https://disqus.com/home/discussion/complaintslist/ua_dreams/#comment-1772107015 (Elenasmodels.com only good in past, can not be recommended now, Today, see below):
I have written to one lady on this site 80 letters until May 2008 when VISA refused 8 requests for a transaction over 8 weeks. There is evidence that what purports to be a letter just to you is not. It looks like I have been scammed & also the only lady that I ever wrote to. Have you?
Google "uadreams or uadreams scam" before joining is our advice
uadreams.com´s business plan is based on the pro-dater. Ladies possibly forced to write to every man that writes to her and the men encouraged to write to more than one lady. The men are under the impression that the site is for marriage purposes but we are not sure what the ladies think the purpose of the site is - maybe just pen pal or chat but not for marriage! this article will define pro-dating - Совет / Advice . We have been advised that arther99@naver.com is planning a class action together with a Kiev lawyer against uadreams.com and that the tax authorities are interested - Please Help Ukraine Relief.org
Tuesday, November 24, 2009
Дамы вы, безусловно, заслуживают лучшего обращения, чем вы получаете, и мы надеемся, что в конце концов вы найдете свой единственный
Украинские леди, вы можете доверять вашим переводчиком? Они могут менять содержание Вашего письма, и что мужчины обращаюсь к вам, чтобы вы никогда не встречаются.
“I had a contact who was working in UA Dreams. And she said that most of mails are written by translators, girls don't even know that somebody are sending mails from their accounts.
On other hand, girls sometimes go to such agencies to get free professional photos. But they have to sign a contract, by which they have to answer on calls, than foreign clients calling them.”
A friend that has visited both ualadys and uadreams ladies received this from one of them after his visit which would seem to concur with what fragov says above Original here
“Hello xxxxx
I am so sad and even angry to hear such awful news! I do not have any relations with ualadys/uadreams after winter! I had bad relations with that agency, because the director and the owner of agency are not true people! They write letters by themsel without women! I
thought that they removed me from the agency! But they did not do it! And can you imagine? That they have found? my photos and copy them, from such site as odnoklassnik! Do you know about it? It is like ISQ? but here you can find your friends and classmates!
I do not know what to do !
I called to the agency, but secretary said that she did not know anything!
So, I hope that you will believe me!
I do not have reason to lie to you and to write to you through the agency, as I write to you by myself!
We can do an expariment! My favorite flower is white tulip and my favorite food is cheese! Ask these questions to me through the AGENCY! You will see that the answers are not correct!
I hope that you will not write to that unfair agency! They even talk girls do not speak by English, even if you know!
Dasha”
I think in my case the letters were edited both mine and the lady that I was writing to and this would seem to be proved here when I located an employee and ex employee
Dasha Grechka's - Manager at UADreams | LinkedIn Ukraine - Manager at UADreams
Dasha says her job is editing (editing out the parts of the letter that they do not wish either the lady or the man to read and writing) No mention is made of translating and none about the business being a marraige agency.
.по фрагов Вс 9 марта 2009 5:41 вечера и по фрагов на Thu Dec 31, 2009 г. 1:59 вечера до посмотреть оригинал нажмите здесь "У меня был контакт, который работал в UA Dreams. И она говорит, что большинство писем написаны переводчики, девушки даже не знаю, что кто-то посылают почту со своих счетов.С другой стороны, девушки иногда идти на такие учреждения, чтобы получить бесплатные профессиональные фотографии. Но они должны подписать контракт, по которому они должны отвечать на звонки, чем иностранные клиенты называя их ".Друг, который посетил оба ualadys и uadreams дамы получили это от одного из них после его визита, который, казалось бы, согласны с тем, что фрагов говорит вышеОригинал здесь http://bit.ly/4EpF0k"Привет хххххЯ так грустно и даже злым слышать такие ужасные новости! У меня нет никаких отношений с ualadys / uadreams после зимы! Я плохие отношения с этим учреждением, так как директор и владелец агентства не являются истинными людей!Они пишут письма themsel без женщин! Ямысль, что они удалили меня из агентства! Но они этого не делали! И можете себе представить? То, что они нашли? мои фотографии и скопировать их, из таких сайтов, как odnoklassnik! Знаете ли вы об этом? Это как ISQ? но здесь вы можете найти друзей и одноклассников!Я не знаю что делать!Я позвонил в агентство, но секретарь сказала, что она ничего не знала!Таким образом, я надеюсь, что вы поверите мне!У меня нет причин лгать вам и обратиться к Вам через агентство, как я пишу к вам сам!Мы можем сделать expariment! Мой любимый цветок белого тюльпана и моя любимая пища сыр! Задайте эти вопросы ко мне через агентство! Вы увидите, что ответы не правильно!Я надеюсь, что вы не будете писать, что несправедливо агентство! Они даже говорят девушки не говорят по английски, даже если вы знаете!Даша "Я думаю, в моем случае буквы были отредактированы как мои и дамы, что я писал, чтобы и этот, казалось бы, доказал здесь, когда я нашел сотрудника и бывшего сотрудникаДаша Гречка's - менеджер по UADreams | LinkedIn Украина - менеджер по UADreamswww.linkedin.com/pub/dasha-grechka/14/74a/3aa (профиль былудален!) http://vk.com/catalog.php?selection=113-82-16 Даша говорит, что ее работа редактирование (редактирование из частей письма, что они не хотят либо дамы или человека для чтения и записи) нет упоминания о переводе и ни о бизнеса, который в брачном агентстве. Интересно, если она когда-либо говорил о моем предложении брака?
This news has destroyed a person writing to her, especially after uadreams.com´s Olia Simina assured him that they were a legitimate agency (see below). There are many other victims. If the agency lie about their ladies names ask yourself what else do they lie about? (We are advised that this lady´s profile on Fiance.com has gone missing so it would indicate that this American company is part of the scam
Welcome to Fiance.com, a service of Eleview International Inc. ... Fiance's andEleview International Inc.'s, usage and/or subscription fees were provided to you...
The first Australian to expose uadreams.com had a friend Dasha in the Ukraine who said about uadreams "And can you imagine? That they have found? my photos and copy them, from such site as odnoklassnik!" so it is possible that the above mentioned ladies have had their identities stolen and are not collaborating in the scam, but rather are victims. Fragov says "she said that most of mails are written by translators, girls don't even know that somebody are sending mails from their accounts" See also
"We also read antiscam sites and are aware of those things that are written by some men.
We can declare that the majority of the things they state there are not based on reasonable evidences.
Anyone can join antiscam site and write whatever he wants.
We state that things that are written on that forums are misinterpretation of the facts and have no real evidences and ground.
There are many fake accusations on the account of UaDreams and UALadys and some other agencies as well. As you understand we are UaDreams and have nothing to do with other agencies.
We know those people who write bad things there. Only three of them are our customers.
Three of them are using many dating sites and feel it their life goal to throw mud on agencies like ours.
Our main goal is to help people to meet each other and if it didn't work for somebody we cannot take responsibility for that as relationship depends only on man and woman and we cannot interfere into their feelings." .
ScamBook is a group platform which enables you to resolve complaints and scamsthrough mass awareness and class action protection. Scambook is a 100% ... .
“I had a contact who was working in UA Dreams. And she said that most of mails are written by translators, girls don't even know that somebody are sending mails from their accounts.
On other hand, girls sometimes go to such agencies to get free professional photos. But they have to sign a contract, by which they have to answer on calls, than foreign clients calling them.” Note
Lotus´s comments on this forum have been removed although there is a reference to this person. This would indicate that uadreams.com External Holding (Gibraltar) Limited are a mafia (or similar) and as Poltava is in the Ukraine were able to threaten the webmaster - we are posting the original post and correcting the link
I had a contact who was working in UA Dreams. And she said that most of mails are written by translators, girls don't even know that somebody are sending mails from their accounts. On other hand, girls sometimes go to such agencies to get free professional photos. But they have to sign a contract, by which they have to answer on calls, than foreign clients calling them. (See Dasha´s story below)
If this is true then uadreams.com (External Holding Limited) could face criminal charges for identity theft (is a form of stealing someone's identity in which someone pretends to be someone else by assuming that person's identity) Кража личности (англ.Identity theft) — преступление, при котором незаконно используются персональные данные человека для получения материальной выгоды. Термин появился в 1964 и является неточным, так как саму личность украсть невозможно.
It would appear that all Ukrainian online dating sites use the Pro-dater business plan which does have a negative effect on the people that they come in contact with during their writing expeditions and this is why there is so much negative comment about uadreams.com and the like. They have only bought it upon themselves and can blame no one else
extract from website Professional online daters, without realizing it, are having a negative effect on the people they come in contact with during their expeditions. For example, a professional online dater may be writing seven people at the same time, when another new interesting prospect shows up. In turn, the professional online dater allows communication with one (or more) of the other seven people to suddenly stop, leaving that person without answers and wondering, “where did he/she disappear to?” The other problem professional online daters bring to online dating is their lack of true commitment. They may have three, four or even more relationships a year. The relationships are generally short-lived and the professional online dater has a new date lined up (with someone new he/she met online) within several days of a breakup. One sensible Ukrainian lady writes extract from this site - http://www.business..IC_ID=1450 or http://bit.ly/W2LLqF Reply author: n/a Replied on: May 02 2011 15:09:23 Message: Now here from the same site I have quoted THE MOST SHOCKING I COMPLAINT I HAVE EVER COME ACROSS CONCERNING THIS SITE It comes from Marina from Kiev, Ukraine January 27, 2011 I would like to tell personal story about Anastasia.com. I am girl from Kiev (Ukraine), I am nice, well-educated and I know English. I wanted to find serious relationship with help of site Anastasia. Well, I registered on the site with my real name and stated that I am woman looking for a man. Can you believe, some mistake has happen and I started to receive invitations from girls to be a member and to chat with them or to read their e-mails? I felt that Anastasia doesn't expect girls to make registration by themselves; they prefer to work with local agencies. Well, than I met a girl who was working in the local international dating agency, partner of Anastasia. She told me that she needs to write and send hundreds of e-mails every day, trying to make new members and to have chat with them. She receives percentage from payments. . Also I found many ads in the local press, where girls are invited to work in chat with foreigners. Also there are special people in the agencies, who write very emotional letters about love and relationship. Than I studied other international dating sites with Russian/Ukrainian girls. I found out that most popular girls usually have very provocative pictures. I mean that girl in underwear takes your attention more than girl in dress. There are many topless girls. Believe me I grew up and live in Ukraine, I am young and beautiful, but not me not any of my friends can not let provocative pictures appear in the Internet. Don't believe that Ukrainian teacher can place a picture in the Internet dressed in a sexy bra. She has colleagues, classmates, alumni, parents, pupils, relatives, and friends and so on. It will be very bad if somebody from this list will see her in underwear (or topless or nude) in the Internet dating site. It can completely destroy professional and personal reputation (I take a teacher for example, but it is true about doctors, clerks, managers and so on). Who don't care? Well, people from show-business (I didn't find girls on the dating site with such field of work), professional daters and prostitutes. I am Ukrainian and after my own experience and investigations I don't believe to dating sites. It is monopoly of professional writers, daters, and fake agencies Well, I decided to try well-known international site. I filled out application form on Match.com. Next day I couldn't access to my page. I wrote a letter to the customer service. The answer was 'We don't accept profiles from your part of world any more, because of scammers'. Guys, if you have something to suggest me, please don't keep silence, let me know your thoughts. Marina. a post on delphi
2013-01-17, 09:22:11
anonymous
Anybody scammed by a Ukrainian dating scammer can email the Ukrainian Tax service,.gromada@sts.gov.ua
They are always pleased to hear from you & tax the scumbags of there ill gotten gains. They have a fraud department that will take action & hopefully put these low life scammers out of business. Its well worth an email to alert them of a scammer & if possible the agency they work for. Its probably best to just visit Ukraine with out using corrupt dating agencies if you really want to meet a Ukrainian lady. Just be prepared to be patient & do NOT part with your hard earned cash if they ask for it. Move on & find someone else. There are lots of decent women there as well as the scumbag scammers.
Ніхтообдуривукраїнськізнайомствашахрай можевідправитиУкраїнська податковаслужба. gromada@sts.gov.ua Вонизавжди радіпочутивідвасіподаткувідморозкитамз жорстокогоотрималиприбуток. Вонимаютьшахрайствовідділ, якийбудевживати заходіві, ми сподіваємося, покластиЦінизькішахраїжиттяз бізнесу. Йоговартоелектронної пошти, щобпопередитиїхпрошахрайі, якщоможливо, вони працюютьнаагентство. Його, ймовірно, кращепростовідвідати Україну зз використаннямшлюбніагентствакорумпованихякщови дійсно хочете познайомитисяз українськимиледі. Простобудьте готовібути терплячимиіне розлучитися зпрацею зароблені гроші, якщовонипросятьзаце.Переходьтеізнайтикогось іншого. Є багатогіднихжіноктамтаксамояк покидьокшахраїв.
Dasha´s story to an Australian that has visited both ualadys and uadreams ladies received this from one of them after his visit which would seem to concur with what fragov (above) says above Original here “Hello xxxxx I am so sad and even angry to hear such awful news! I do not have any relations with ualadys/uadreams after winter! I had bad relations with that agency, because the director and the owner of agency are not true people! They write letters by themsel without women! I thought that they removed me from the agency! But they did not do it! And can you imagine? That they have found? my photos and copy them, from such site as odnoklassnik! Do you know about it? It is like ISQ? but here you can find your friends and classmates! I do not know what to do ! I called to the agency, but secretary said that she did not know anything! So, I hope that you will believe me! I do not have reason to lie to you and to write to you through the agency, as I write to you by myself! We can do an expariment! My favorite flower is white tulip and my favorite food is cheese! Ask these questions to me through the AGENCY! You will see that the answers are not correct! I hope that you will not write to that unfair agency! They even talk girls do not speak by English, even if you know!" . Source of post below
2013-03-14, 08:28:37
anonymous
I know a translator for this company, it is 100 per cent scam, do you really think young Ukraine models are single and looking for old men ? They get paid by the company for every photo someone buys of them and for every email they receive as well as a hourly rate for video chat. Most of the girls are in relationships, search for them on www.vk.com and look for yourself. They get paid money for the gifts you send, so they never even got the nice roses you sent, just $5 instead. If you are looking for genuine girls there then look for single mothers or women in there late 30's and older. The young girls don't want old men. Just your money.
and dating scams are not just confined to the Ukraine & other Eastern European countries
Panorama exposes the tricks of the UK's online dating industry.
GlobalMatchConnection.com and Cupid plc have been named. Whistleblowers reveal how they create fake profiles and adopt multiple personas to reel in those looking for love - all to boost profits. . Panorama exposes the tricks of the UK's online dating industry, worth millions of pounds a year. Reporter Fiona Walker investigates how some unscrupulous dating websites are preying on those looking for love and searching for their perfect partner. She reveals a world where millions of photos and private details are taken from social media sites without people's consent and reused to set up fake profiles of imaginary potential partners to tempt the lovelorn. Celebrities, politicians and even children are among those whose personal information has been targeted. Whistleblowers reveal how they create fake profiles and adopt multiple personas to reel in those looking for love - all to boost profits.
...at Cupid plc? According to this article in the Kyiv Post, Cupid recruits for a job titled "Motivation Manager" in the Ukraine. An undercover journalist applied for one of these positions which allegedly "involved posing as a female user of the dating site and encouraging male users online to buy memberships." But that can't be right because Cupid told the BBC that they don't employ anyone to do this (it would be illegal after all). Apparently Cupid did not respond to an invitation from the Kyiv Post to comment on this investigation.
Scammers can even have their own website by contacting
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http://itccommunicationsnet-johnnichols.blogspot.com/2010/01/blog-post.html (However about Tony B: http://www.happierabroad.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=18394 see whole forum scroll down in link, its said online he never worked for a date agency this is not said in forum link, but complete liar said in forum link from some of the companies involved that seam to won over Tony B in court because he had no shred of evidence or real witnesses etc nothing to backup his many claims, that has much merit and truth in them however (I know Anastasiadate is scam to almost 100 percent, but I remember I seen Online, did not find the link to that post now but, still searching when I have the time, they said Tony B never worked for them, and like they never heard of him, I would have believed Tony B but his ways and claims and own agenda it seams is to unserious and making a joke of the whole thing, by his macho style of beeing, witch is wrong thing to go about this date scamming agencies business, its not a joke, or anything to joke about..., but a very serious thing, witch hurts 1000 males Worldwide and even some of the few serious girls from Ukraine and maybe Russia aswell, and Tony B seeking too much own glorification and fame and attention and look at me I am cool or best style etc, that makes him untrustworth, and makes me believe Anastasiadate in this, that he Tony B maybe never worked for them, or their agency, and it also seams court and lawsuit won over Tony B in this, and forced him remove his videos and much of his content and maybe some of his sites and blogs and Youtube accounts missleading the public, see forum linkhttp://www.happierabroad.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=18394and remember forum is 2 pages), if thats the case he is a false witness, but who knows, unsure about Tony B: http://www.happierabroad.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=18394see whole forum scroll down in link. His, Tony B site http://tonybochene.com/, exist many doubts about him, he might be a false witness, just wanting to show off... For fame attention, without any shred of proof... Most likely... Sadly... But who knows for sure... I however do not recommend Tony B site or any of his claims, even thow they have some merit, truth to it or much truth to it, it still is unsure he ever worked for a date agency, he claims... Its hard to take Tony B serious, to much overdone excessive, a bit too much something like Texas cowboy style over his site and videos... http://tonybochene.com/ and Look at me whola concept, like I am the best, I rock that kind of thing with Tony B... http://tonybochene.com/who-is-tony-bochene/, a bit to much of that to take him serious... However I do not dislike Tony B as person, however his style and ways is overrated and mainly based on self for fame attention, and Tony B honesty I think is in quastion and Tony B is a bit or very doubtful, as he might never worked for date agency, and in that way totally misslead the public with all his advices and tips, why?? Because he claimed to work for agency and in that way knows much insider knowledge of scams in date industry from Ukraine and Russia, I think mostly it refers to etc. If he, Tony B is found out a totally liar, and never worked for an date agency, its sad... It also seams some of Tony B videos and blogs or pages is removed, wich could indicate he is not truthful, because he has no evidence of his many claims, and proberly never worked for an date agency, but I am not sure, but something is fishy about him, Tony B, I strongely think, and somewhat also feel:
Agency scams with their scam date sites and scam prodate working girls no good, but lying testimonials are also if its the case with Tony B, either no good, both is equally bad, as both missleads the public in various ways, nomatter how much in Tony B claims fitts the truth, if it is not true he worked on date agency, it is still based on a lie... Witch makes his Tony B testimonials and claims based on a total lie... I dislike dishonesty and liars very much nomatter what camp they are in or come from or claim to be in, either in date scam agencies with scam prodate paid working agency girls or supposedly claim to warn the public against the date scams, or claim to worked in date agency, as Tony B claimed... witch was refuted: http://www.happierabroad.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=18394see whole forum scroll down in link, hope they the dishonest ones do better and ask the public of forgivness, in either case.
Big claims Tony B also require huge evidence or backup, refers mostly to Tony B as he claims much without any shred of evidence or people or evidence or true witnesses backing him up in his claims, it seams...:
Its always best to be as honest as possible, in all we do on a daily bases. I Like Tony B much, as human beeing, but not the part if any is lies and deception, that part I hate, same goes for the scams in date industry of prodater girls paid working for agency date scams and agency scams with their scam date sites etc. Folks lets be honest, its always best in long run, and definetely best for business, in any business, honesty is best in long run, I strongely think.
Again its always best to be as honest as possible, in all we do on a daily bases, this is important to us all, try to be honest, as honest as possible, one can be in all we do on a daily bases.)
Q: I can only find bad reviews about this website. I did meet a lady on this site and wrote to her 80 letters via ualadys.com site and then uadreams.com after they had an ugly split, over a period of 18 months until VISA blocked our correspondence. I personally believe that uadreams.com scam both their clients and would not be suprised to see her profile still on their site in years to come! Has anyone had a good experience with either ualadys.com or uadreams.com? We have proof from a person in Australia, Venezuela and myself that received identical first letters from the same ladies, that we had initially though had been written specially to each one of us
A: The site is a total scam. When you see a positive review, the man will be totally unreachable. I have went to the site and found men on linkedin, google+, and facebook. I ask them about UaDreams and I get no response. That is either because they are fakes or because they can't say anything positive. UaDreams is a marketing machine. They don't believe in providing good service. They only believe in lies. Well, it is time for them to be shown the value of lying. It is time for this house of cards to fall. John, I am David Brunner, you can find me on Google+, vk.com, or facebook. I won't avoid you unlike UaDreams or any of their supposed customers. Thank you.
(Part of Summery as well, even if not listed above on webpage before):
About Uadreams reviews (Uadreams.com with all their extensions...) to add is following, this is proberly not only limited to Uadreams (Uadreams.com with all their extensions...) but also to every scamming date site that charge by letter or translation fee for every letter etc, sign of scams:
"Most of the positive reviews is said by others is hard to find and get comments from, most likely they are fake reviews made by agency people, or paid testimonials, by agency or agencies... (or paid actors, false testimonials...) "
Source Trustpilot secretuser (added here today 2012-12-27).
In other words Uadreams (Uadreams.com with all their extensions, all well as all date scams agencies with their sites that charge per letter and translation fee sign of scam, their testimonials of the positive side and on their websites cannot be trusted, not even their marriage, testimonials, why ?
Because its hard to locate or maybe impossible almost, hard to get in contact with, the supposedly couples, and it can been paid actors, but some few percent might be true, of marriages and testimonials, just to keep the scam goin and not be shutdown by authorities etc.
However a followup after a year or two of the supposedly married couples would be great, to see if last, and no visa scam occured etc...
Criminality of course can happends in marriages outside scam date agencies with their websites, but not in the same levels, as from Ukraine, worst in World and maybe Russia, exist better people in Ukraine and Russia also, outside scam date agencies and their websites etc, but Ukraine is worst place in World in dating through agencies, so much date scams...
Russia not good either but maybe better, when it comes to date through agency... Exist many better places in World to date online, and go for websites that not charge by letter, or letter translation fee, and have good reptutation, and better charge model, like monthly less fee or even totally free sites etc).
Short summery Of Uadreams (Uadreams.com):
This however applies to all sites that is a date scam sites with its scam agencies, and paid scam girls that for for the scam agencies in Ukraine, should be called Urkraine when it comes to date scams mostly and maybe Russia (exist bad thing in World rest to, but not in same reach as in scam date evil in Ukraine and maybe also in Russia) etc:
Seriously guys where is your intregrity guys, you all deserv better then this, Wake up:
Personally who can marry the dishonest girl that lies, and say: I never got paid... they scam you..., even if they marry you they start marry with lying and dishonesty and take values before God of Bible, Gods word in Church.. Hypocrites, if they not repent and come clean they will go to Hell the lying girls in there, I strongely believe all proberly got paid once... for chat or email, it can explain why some girls is online always and is member on site for years...
Its much worse my friends then that proberly more then 90 percent works and get paid for chat letters , even that some gets married it still a scam why? because they proberly got paid for chatting and emails and also scam because sometimes translators write letters without women, or mimick them with womens consent or not...
How can any man trust a women like that who is dishonest from start, just beeing in a scam agency like UA dreams??? is that not a sign she really not love you, because she partly lies in this, and often also protect these scam agencies and sites, by saying oh no they deserv to take so much money charging for translation service (translation service another scam it seams witch also in many cases, maybe not all, but mostly is fake, as girl can speak and understand English, more then good, but by agency acts as they cannot English...) They, the girls, or translators playing them are good company etc........ thats a lie big lie... I think these girls and translators playing them is just after your money even if any of them marry you... Girls like these if not repent is bound to Hell as they lie not repent and is swindlers and cheaters.... nothing to be married to... Wake up guys I also have contact with worker from inside these online sites, who confrims this they get paid for chat and messages also maybe etc, and maybe for gifts and English lessons and so on, Wake up. God bless you all want none more get scammed in this, so sad they rape your heart and put heart back in and steal all your money, its so sick how can anyone with a soul do this........... If they not repent they all deserv burn in Hell of those scam agencies and its girls and online scam date sites morstly from Ukraine and Russia, do these type of scams most in world, but exist elsewhere also. God bless all.
Ukraine and Russia is the Worlds most lying people in World dishonest, however it exist many good or better people local there also, those who are outside scam agencies with its scam date sites and scams etc. Beeing poor or living in poor country, do not justify scams and robbery of men who seek passion love and marry with true and honest intentions!!!!!!!!! God bless all. Some understanding and compassion can be in these exceptions only, some of them who do this in order to survive and get food on the table, if they have not any job, or have a job, but gets no money enough to survive, but even with compassion, for them, this is not right to scam people Worldwide Online like this...
Exist better ways of surviving Faith is one and seeking God and his kingdom first and live Biblically right daily in daily repentive state in love for Christ, Gods Son, and always and even more always when in the great need or distress, live daily Biblically in daily repentive state in love for Christ, Gods Son, and let him provide for all your needs daily etc, when no other way is found, this is best to do for all people always, nomatter what, of Bible, Gods Word. And Do Gods Will daily, and reach the lost with the true Biblically Gospel, preach daily for free etc. Churches the few that exist have right, and can ask for donations or Congregations, but best is always to Preach for free, ( as Christ said "freely you received freely you give" daily ) and let Christ, Gods Son, take care of all your daily needs etc.
Additionally info:
I can not recall were or remember where I found this info, but I just know it is true, I think it were regarding another date scam site, that still is scam, but has better themself a bit sence, but still is scam, will not recommend it either. I can not recall were or remember where I found this info:
What I have heard Online or seen also is that some who meet the girls in real life, and have had a long correspondence, the girls seam to know almost nothing of the long letter and video chat correspondense through the site, why because the girls never got it, but translator playing them, however this info, is a general one, not applying specific to UAdreams, but I think also happend in Uadreams very often as well.
But also in some cases because it shall not look so suspicious translators feed the girl info just prior the meeting, this is proberly regarding the prodater girls, why?? So the girls know something of the correspondense with the forigne men, they never spoke to, but translators did in their stead...
Yes sadly most is faked conversations, faked letters etc, its proven through Ukrainian date expert blogger girl KRYSTYNA site:
http://www.ukrainiandatingstories.com/uadreams-com-review/ (UAdreams scam men with mostly fake letters and fake conversations, not all is fake but many letters is... I also know following information on my own, the girls do often not write their own letters, did a test, some girls not intrested they said or similair in letters, and a few days later got video chat invitations from them, this happend in more then one occasion, meaning the girls do not write their own letters, and the real girls in profiles, might send out the video chat invitations, meaning maybe some few intrested, or just waning to get our money in correspondence, as most girls get paid by Agency for letters and Video chats etc).
http://www.scamadviser.com/check-website/uadreams.com(Cyprus Warning Uadreams.com with all their other extensions like Uadreams.de and Uadreams.es etc, is trying get away with fraud and date scams this indicates, it strongely seams, trying to get away from Authorities, Police etc by operating from Cyprus, trying to hide, their scam, fraud, illegal, unethically, morally wrong, evil cunning practises, unlawful scamming illegal, money frauds, scam date scams, deceiving scamming thousends of men Worldwide or even millions of men Worldwide in worst case and even deceiving scamming some of the girls from Ukraine and Russia as well posing off as them, criminally impersonate, them in some of the cases not all but some of the cases etc, see link,See score, Uadreams.com. Uadreams.com togheter with all their other extensions, has 0 Trust score....Uadreams.com Bad fraud scam date website/websites with all their other Uadreams extensions etc as Uadreams.de or Uadreams.es etc...)
VITAL VIDEO SECTION BELOW A BIT UPDATED:
Very Good Videos, just clarifying again, as in some of them some things were said to make it ok to blame the victims, those all videos from that video uploader and link to that Youtuber account, is now removed however, seam to be of the much unbiblically evil twistings in person in other aspects etc, that is never ok and this is never ok, its always the scammers fault, victims is never guilty or stupied for falling for so sophisticated scams as these, victims are never stupied, but totally innocent always:
Very vital tips from inside claimed of Russia, from a period of time: How to avoid getting scammed, and it might be best to as a Generally rule avoid girls from Crimea from Ukraine, Russia, as many girls in Crimea scams more it seams then in other places, not all girls in Crimea, but many it seams, and some of them are not so kind or honest but might be in evil unrepented (they seam both girls and proberly men also, seam to hate forigners or Americans and proberly not only limited to Americans but other people in general also outside Crimea they the girls and men of Crimea hates, maybe not all of them, people of Crimea hates all people outside Crimea, not all, but many of Crimeans of Crimea do, both of men and girls, they have an attitude: Crimea is best, all people outside is evil of World, like responsible for all evil in World, past, future, present, and past old big Wars etc or similair attitude most likely...) ways, unless they repent, exist honest girls in Crimea, also however, but still as a General rule of caution avoid girls from Crimea, or be extremely on guard or use extreme caution etc. Many girls do it scams in Crimea Worldwide Online, as its so very poor in Crimea, many do not have afford with food each day, even that many (not all but some or maybe many) have jobs they work like 7 days a week and earns like nothing... thereof they, the girls mostly, (some men also join work as translators and scam forigne men impersonate the girls in profile, or other girls translator impersonate the girls in profile on the scam pay by letter translate fee date sites). Many girls do it scams in Crimea Worldwide Online, as its so very poor in Crimea, many do not have afford with food each day,, even that many (not all but some or maybe many) have jobs they work like 7 days a week and earns like nothing... thereof they, the girls mostly, join these scam pay by letter translate fee scam sites with their agencies, and getting paid scam men Worldwide with their translators, while beeing married, having a local huspand or have local boyfriends... Some dating scam translate fee per letter sites with their scam date agencies, also seam to fake where the girls are born, or the agencies say they are in one place but operating the evil from Crimea anyway, so best is to avoid pay per letter translate scam fee sites with their scam agencies, as they are scams, in most cases over 95 percent or similair. Beeing poor is no excuse to do crimes, as it exist better honest ways of surviving even in the most tuffest times, as put ones trust always daily number 1 in God Trinity Yahweh of Bible, Gods Word, Creator of all life and Universe for example, and let he provide your needs for you and live daily Biblically in repentive state in love for Christ, Gods Son, of Bible, Gods Word. (Just Boldly Again Clarify: None is stupied American or Stupied of the victims, only scammers 95 percent or more of the Ukraine and Russian girls and translators are the stupied ones, in those scam date translate per letter translate fee scam sites with their scam agencies).
Even some girls in older age scams who has money, and a great high income job from Ukraine and Russia: (Just Boldly Again Clarify: None is stupied American or Stupied of the victims, only scammers 95 percent or more of the Ukraine and Russian girls and translators are the stupied ones, in those scam date translate per letter translate fee scam sites with their scam agencies).
Culture and weird scamming perspective many girls and older people have in Ukraine and Russia (not all but many), in thinking its ok scamming forigne men Worldwide etc: (Just Boldly Again Clarify: None is stupied American or Stupied of the victims, only scammers 95 percent or more of the Ukraine and Russian girls and translators are the stupied ones, in those scam date translate per letter translate fee scam sites with their scam agencies).
Do not trust all you see in translate fee scam date sites with their agencies: (Just Boldly Again Clarify: None is stupied American or Stupied of the victims, only scammers 95 percent or more of the Ukraine and Russian girls and translators are the stupied ones, in those scam date translate per letter translate fee scam sites with their scam agencies).
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New video added below a bit futher down below vital added here date 2015-04-11, about Amanda Todd 15 year old girl, minor, and what happend to her:
About Russian Mail Order Bride Scam (this also proberly applies to all, not just Russian Mail Order Bride Scam, but all scamming date agencies with its scamming date websites, mostly in Ukraine and some in Russia, either in some form or another, however exist good people in Ukraine and Russia too, most proberly outside these scamming date agencies with its websites etc):
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Backup About Russian Mail Order Bride Scam (Backup of Video if scam agencies removed it by their lies...):
(this also proberly applies to all, not just Russian Mail Order Bride Scam, but all scamming date agencies with its scamming date websites, mostly in Ukraine and some in Russia, either in some form or another, however exist good people in Ukraine and Russia too, most proberly outside these scamming date agencies with its websites etc):
To view Online at Youtube choose full size if you want:
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2d2wzt_russian-mail-order-bride-scam_shortfilms Added here 2015-06-19, Updated 2015-06-30: SOME CHEAPER OVERAL SEAMINGLY HONEST ALTERNATIVES OF DATE SITES, BUT YOU HAVE IN THOSE TO DO ALL WORK YOURSELF VERIFYING THE GIRLS WHO TO TRUST OR NOT TRUST ETC, WEED OUT THE SCAMMERS SO TO SPEAK: If you want to go for free sites or low cost subscription sites, the following these rules and all rules listed on this website before and after these recommendations, of not getting scammed. Things you must think of: Never send any money to any girl ever, as you never meet them in reality, but only online, witch do not count. Never pay any airplane tickets or pay anything in advance before real meeting in reaility.
Never get decived in any Visa scams. Never send any gifts or birthday gifts etc, before real meeting. And also when travel to meet it is unsafe and unwise to travel alone to Russia or Ukraine, best is to do both decide a common goal like meet in a close safe nearby country, or travel with friends first time meeting. But at current state some parts of Russia and Ukraine is not safe to travel to because of the war. If you wanna date in Ukraine or Russia, however, it might not be safe to travel to Ukraine right now, because of War: http://liveuamap.com/ and http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-28969784 and http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-28969784etc. Also never travel alone to Ghana or Nigeria or Africa they are considered as well as Ukraine and Russia to be high risk countries, for scams, and illegal activity and crimes in general.
Travel with friends first times, or good if you know someone in personally over there, before travel. But when you have weeded out all scam girls in free sites or free date sites or low cost date sites, then try to get them talk with you on skype, and then in live video prove themself for you beeing real, like write a not i like or love you and your name and show in video etc, waveis not proof enough, as some recorded fake videos can obey commands... Or ask them to stand up move around so you can see their hight etc, if they refuse doing this in live video cam in skype, then they are scammers, and using recorded videos... Then just move on. Bad sign is if they ask for money gifts or whatever when you never meet in real life, best solution is to move on and stop talking to them, as they are scammers, no girl with some decency or intregrity would ever ask you for money or gifts ever, they are to proud for that, nomatter how their living conditions are.
Even in the first meeting you travel to her and take with you a friend in first meeting for security or her travel to you with a friend of hers in first meeting for her security, or you two decide a common safe country nearby both and meet. Even after real meeting if the girl ask you for money or gifts in any form or way or want you to get her out to expensive resturants and buy her gifts its a big red flag of a golddigger and most likely a scammer as well. Stay away from her and move on, same applies if opposite if the guy do it to you in similair manners etc.
Never ever send money to anyone you just meet online and never meet in real life, best also try not fall in love to fast like after 3 letters etc... Never send any form of gifts to birthday or anything to anyone you just meet online and not meet in real life. Much job it will be in these free sites and free date sites and low cost monthly date sites, as no profile is passport verified or confirmed in any way, maybe some confirmations, but not much its your job to do, in order not to get scammed. Also remember you can never know for sure if the ones you like are singel or have boyfriend or girlfriend, you simply have to trust their word for it if you can not find status in their vk profiles if they have any.
If you want to feel more secure cinderella1.com is the best of all as they are all passport verified age as well status singel and also interviewed long time each girl to be serious for life marriage and huspand for life like 99,9 percent of the girls wants in cinderella1.com, that has almost perfect trackrecord like no real true honest complaint sence 2008, huge many years in business, and verified even as 100 percent accurate and honest more detailed info about this below. (More detailed info about Cinderella1.com far below on this website): Here are the cheap sites monthly subscription sites, these sites are not as perfect as cinderella1.com, but cheap alternatives, you need to verify all the girls you talk to yourself, if you can trust them or not, or if they are girlfriend marriage wife material or not:
http://www.new-dating.com/ (Testing them out you do on your own risk, as they have one complaint old but of more serious kind, however it should not be a problem for you to get money back if they do not live up to their service promises, so be a bit on caution testing their service out. What speaks positive for them is the low cost and getting real contact details you can exchange on the site, and that they are using a well known payment processor that personally know of do not tolereaty any forms of scams, so getting your money back should not be a problem, but if they do not live up to their promises contact us so we can delist them, you can contact us at our Google Plus Page Click Here, use hangout talk white bubble icon and send message, to us).
(We strongely advise against all forms of escort service ads on new-dating.com their forum and prostitution, that can harm you and the girl in long run best to resist applies to all people, except this new-dating.com seams to overall except one very old complaint most likely outdated complaint as over 1500 people likes on Facebook can not have wrong from real human people to be a good honest date very cheap site that allows exhange personally details as email skype phone numbers etc):
(We are not affiliates for anyone or any company here on this Blogg, but listed the payment options for new-dating-com so you see, and when click on links you see at bottom in small text it stands no affiliate. We recommend all for free, gets 0 money or compensation for it, and so will it be forever, here on this Blogg. We give all advices and recommendations always for free without any form of compensation, not even gets money from ads or advertisments here on this Blogg, we do all for free here always, God bless all):
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New Dating is exclusive way to find your perfect date and partner!
http://www.new-dating.com/pay_form_click_bank.php(We are not affiliates for anyone or any company here on this Blogg, but listed the payment options for new-dating-com so you see, and when click on links you see at bottom in small text it stands no affiliate. We recommend all for free, gets 0 money or compensation for it, and so will it be forever, here on this Blogg. We give all advices and recommendations always for free without any form of compensation, not even gets money from ads or advertisments here on this Blogg, we do all for free here always, God bless all.)
Best option to try is like 2 month for 15 dollars a month, all contact details you can exchange and email Skype etc according to the website quastion and answer.
First of all, keep in mind always that you have to use common sense when dealing with people on the internet for the first time. Online dating services are good for people who are serious in their intention either it's friendly or romantic relationship, although there's also a chance that these sites are also used by people who do their business right there. If you have never met your pen-pal personally and if this person wants to visit you and needs money for visa, airfares, surgesry, internet access, "show cash" to the customs, pay for translation services - beware, this person can be a scam.
That's also about so called translation agencies. They start by posting profiles, usually with high quality photos,
use false names, pictures of professional but not so famous models and start comunication with male members as on behalf of a profile owner, they usually include new photos with each message to lure a man in. But they register on the site not with a goal of finding a partner, but their perpose is to find victims and take their money. After 3-5 messages have been sent to each other between a man and a woman, suddenly arrives a letter from a Translation agency manager, stating that their services should be paid if you wish to continue communication with a woman. Usually they offer separate letter translation, or monthly fee for a certain amount of letters.
As a rule, these illegal translation agencies do not have their own websites with the description of their services and price list. They also often change name of the so-called translation agency but continue to use the same canned letter offering their services. If you received this kind of letter, take some time and do some internet research about the agency and their service, also names of people you contacted with, as timely found information can be useful and help you avoid being frustrated or scammed. If you find yourself in this situation stop communicating with her immediately.
Stay alert and use common sense , and you will never be scammed. If you receive any suspicious requests, report them, so that site owners could investigate, take scammers offline and remove their profiles. Nowadays all kinds of free online translators are available to use without any third party's help, so two people always can find the way to understand each other's messages. "
WHO WRITES THE LETTERS, WHO DOES THE TRANSLATIONS, CAN I GET THE GIRLS' ADDRESSES/TELEPHONE NUMBERS ETC? I SENT GREETINGS TO SEVERAL GIRLS AND THE REPLY WAS VERY QUICK AND IN ENGLISH. I KNOW FEW GIRLS SPEAK ENGLISH OR HAVE COMPUTER AT HOME SO IT SURPRISES ME HOW QUICK AND CLEAR THEIR RESPONSE WAS. WHY IS THIS?
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All our advertizing is on the Internet and targeted only on international dating, so majority of ladies who come and post their information have intentions to find their partner in other countries. That is why most of them also have at least basic knowledge of foreign languages. For those who still have difficulty with foreign languages, we have free multilingual electronic translator available in the Russian part of our website. As advertizing can be found only on the net, it means that it's available to people who have access to it either at work, at home or via internet centers. We do not represent any agency, do not do translations or personal meetings. Our Paid members can exchange their direct contact information - e-mails, phones, icq, etc - with all the other members of the site. We do not sell addresses/provide addresses, this only depends on the personal desire of members when to reveal this information. More easy, fast and free way to know if someone is interested in getting acquainted is using our "Show interest" feature, that has been added just recently for the members' convenience. "
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What is your refund policy?
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We do refund orders due to the customer's request when the order is duplicate or made by error.
http://www.new-dating.com/faq.php They offer refunds and if some girl is scammer report them, and if asking money back you hopefully get it back, if not complain to their payment processor Clickbank.com witch is the best in service even better then Paypal in honesty. They suerly will refund your money if you have a true valied serious complaint.
The rules is like you, as a customer, can get refund within 60 days of purchase with Clickbank, and how to do it steps: https://stoppingscams.com/how-to-get-a-clickbank-refund-easily-with-screenshots/ It also gives new-dating high trust score that they are working for the best and most well known trusted paymentprocessor for digital products and services like Clickbank.com No scammers would choose clickbank.com as they can if needed freeze the money and repay back money to its clients if any company abuse their services and do illegal things or crimes etc. Clickbank is 100 percent trustworthy this I know as I personally used them, but they have bad scoring online in scamadviser because of fraud companies use their service in other areas, and both those the scammy companies products and they use Clickbank.com as payment processor who is innocent gets the blame.... Clickbank removes illegal and bad digital products and services, but sadly people still put the blame on Clickbank thereof the negative feedback from some people...
Clickbank is legitimate, but some of its clients who put up products for sale on it are not. Sometimes we hear of Clickbank disqualifying the continued sale of certain products. That's because the products were eventually found to be of poor quality or the owners violated the terms of service or simply breached the terms of payments of affiliate commissions. I should say Clickbank should bear some of the blame for these problems because they've not been able to figure out a way of adequately scrutinizing products and product owners for quality and integrity. But then, even Google has the same problem. So, it's not a problem peculiar to Clickbank. These are software powered online merchants, and software are artificial intelligence. Therefore, there's a limit to how much they can discern. The bottom line is Clickbank is legitimate, it's not a scam. However, if you've been burned by Clickbank's pitfalls and you're looking for a great online business not related to Clickbank that can fetch you anything from $500 to $800 without a website, without recruiting people and without driving traffic, visit this link to get the details: http://dsdomination.com/sp/pro?aid=succeedonline or contact me on facebook. Be sure to copy URL correctly so you don't get misdirected. See you on the other side.
http://www.scamadviser.com/check-website/clickbank.com (Personally Clickbank.com do pay all its affiliates, if that is not the case then the affiliates must have done something illegal or broken the rules etc, many of the complaints in comments below in link is not truthful.)
Exchange email and skype is allowed and very cheap like their 2 month subscription option 15 dollar a month.
However one complaint old exist about them:
http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/New-Datingcom/nationwide/New-Datingcom-Blacklisted-Permanently-Scam-Dating-Website-With-Fraud-Operations-new-dat-903963 (personally in past some truth of this might have been, but over 1500 people real likes on Facebook.com can not have wrong).
, but I do believe not much truth is into it, this complaint, as so many people likes them real people like over 1500 likes on Facebook, witch is really good no fake testimonials there:
Other recommend is of cheap monthly low cost alternative is: http://www.ukrainedate.com/ (Some complaints about them exist, so be on caution, but overall it seams to be a good site, however you have to screen out potentionally scammers yourself and report them to site administration, report all who ask of money, if any does. But after the screen out by you, we think you also can find many honest sincere girls that are looking for the real deal get to know you and meet and marry for life etc. Remember first meeting meet in a safe nearby country instead going to Russia or Ukraine, and if going to Russia or Ukraine, never travel alone first time, take a friend with you, and also remember its not so safe to travel to Ukraine or some parts or Russia now because of the war etc, places to avoid see map http://liveuamap.com/. Places to stay away from because of huge date scams is Crimea, and Odessa and Lughansk Ukraine, it exist good people in those places also, outside the dating area, but when it comes to dating these places is not the best especially when it comes to online dating, but that can also apply to offline dating in real life, those places is well known for committing date scams worldwide). And: http://www.scamadviser.com/check-website/ukrainedate.com Some doubts exist about Ukraine dating but overall it seams to be a ok site, Ukraine date: http://www.sitejabber.com/reviews/www.ukrainedate.com And: https://www.trustpilot.com/review/www.ukrainedate.com
And:
We also have some recommendations I think we can trust by Reggie who fights scams as well, more about that below (you have to verify the girls yourself, always however its best to do so also, in all forms of dating):
Totally free sites, do not recommend the other free date sites as freepersonals etc they usually have like 0 or little response rate and those who respond is not serious might be scammers or just wnat penpals not anothing more... This free date site is pretty good actually knows some few peopel who finded real honest girls in here, talking on skype in video chat and soon meeting etc maybe: http://www.mamba.ru/en/ Totally free sites not so much for dating but to connect with people: https://www.facebook.com/ and : https://vk.com/
Truth about this date scam business confirmation: Generally confirmation from Cinderella1.com Agency confirmation, I however know not any info to recommend or dismiss them, just good they confirm the truth see, this applies to all agencies almost in Ukraine and maybe parts of Russia as well:
To view Online at Youtube choose full size if you want: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrJe3ZbHk6Q However I know not enough info to recommend cinderella1.com, but I do think they might be better choice.
However if you choose to join them you do that on your very own risk, as I do not fully yet trust them either, nor have recommended them, (only showed them because they confirms what goes on in this Ukraine and maybe also Russia date scam business to 90 to 95 percent or much more almost 100 percent, only a very very few few few few percent is honest and true....) If their money back guarantee works it seams good.
To contact Police or get updates on various Online Internet scams and scams in general and Online Internet warnings from Police and how to avoid getting scammed go to: http://police.gov.sg/advisories/scams.html And: To report Online various crimes and scams go to: http://police.gov.sg/epc/ (If not can use this form because not Singapore Citizen, contact local authorities where you live etc).
Facts about Cinderella1 Agency and overall Score (Cinderella1.com):
I know many recommends Mordinson.com Family Agency, it might be good however trust score shows its not perfect, and another person reviewer (M-A-G-S) with tons of experiences it seams do not recommend them, at all, but have them on their Blacklist. (However that reviewer might be decieved in some other things, but this seam to be very true, but because of some other things doubtful listed of that another reviewer. Not know gender surely of that another reviewer, but proberly a male overall good very truthful reviewer, with tons of experience, spotting out the good vs bad date sites online with their agencies etc).
New reviews added here, 2015-06-07, updated 2015-08-21 a bit below about Mordinson Family Agency:
Facts about Mordinson Agency and overall Score (Mordinson.com):
And: "Website: mordinson.com Title: Mordinson family's Ukrainian women marriage agency in Kharkov Description: The agency bears the name of our family because we are open to our clients and have nothin Type: Women
Domain Age: 14 Years, 156 Days Website Speed: Very Fast
Owner: Mordinson marriage agency Owner Address: Barabashova 38 - 177, Kharkov, 61168, KHARKOV, UKRAINE Owner City: Kharkov Owner Postcode: 61168 Owner Country : Ukraine Website Location : United States Probable website origin :-
64%; United States
32%; Ukraine
4%; Australia
Notes:- This website setup involves countries known to be high risk This website is likely to be operating from a high risk country
Analysis Details:-
This site has a high risk country associated with it. This may be as you expect but care should be taken if purchasing an item from a site that you didn't expect to be associated with the countries listed above. Certain countries are listed as being high risk because of the high percentage of online fraud or tendency to send fake/replica items."
Mordinson also has serious complaints against it owner as well, so we will never recommend them, as it seams he posted fake testimonials to recommend his service to others shows desperation...
And got banned by admin and tracked down by ip adress and email, a very serious complaint:
Added here 2015-07-07 (Updated 2015-08-21): New Reviews about Mordinson Family Agency:
This site and marriage agency company which is family owned is a failure at times when it comes to customer support or service response. They have been known to be contacted in the past by others and not respond back when contacted.
Spam advertising has also been known to be acquainted with this site from others.
Also as well some have stated that there is a case for prejudice especially in their advertising projections from the site which excludes other ethnic groups from being actually projected on the site's advertising. Their method of exclusion of other ethnic groups especially in their advertising content gives them a very low grade along with the customer support failure and spamming as already mentioned above.
Added here 2015-07-07 (Updated 2015-08-21): New Reviews about Mordinson Family Agency: "dcv Member Send: 6/1/2008 1:41:11 PM they are very expensive for the service they provide and you also have to use one of their mordinson apartments.also no access to ladies home address is another reason not to use them."
"Kirkland Member Send: 6/1/2008 4:52:42 PM Looks pretty expensive. (Even that its a Marriage Agency and not an Ordinary date site, its too expensive for the ordinary people, Gentlemen, men, Worldwide..., However prices now days in 2015 might have changed a bit and might be a little cheaper, then back in 2008, but still its proberly still too expensive for the low income Worldwide people, Gentlemen, men, my addition.). 75$ for a "gentle spring kiss" without even telling you what the hell that is. This seems to be a business that's asking you to buy things without a full description of what you're getting. 5 new photos of the lady $100...wtf?" (A bit bad Wordly Unbiblically language from like one person, in this Forum Link, sorry, lets hope that person repents from that Unbiblically bad Wordlylanguage etc... Otherwise good info, overall, Thanks, member dcv and member Kirkland, in that Forum.). http://forum.fiance.com/forum2.asp?Main=ShowTopic&forumid=1&topicid=3921(A bit bad Wordly Unbiblically language from like one person, in this Forum Link, sorry, lets hope that person repents from that Unbiblically bad Wordlylanguage etc... Otherwise good info, overall, Thanks, member dcv and member Kirkland, in that Forum, Forum Link).
Some few people that are enemies of Cinderella1 without any true evidence or honest backup accused us to fool people of thousends usd dollars by recommending Cinderella1 and not recommending Mordinson....
Because according to them Mordinson is so honest... Witch it really is not, the true honest complaints shows that, and yeah right Mordinson is so cheap...
"7-day Introduction Service package - USD 2450,00 10-day Introduction Service package - USD 2650,00"
"Now you can have a date with a lady you are interested in using the "Video Date" service! See the lady and hear her voice, ask the questions and get the answers in a real time live conversation. We use a Full HD 15 Megapixel web camera and so you will see the lady you are talking to in great detail. Thank you for not sharing or requesting any personal contact information such as telephone numbers, e-mail and postal addresses, surnames, exact birth dates etc during your Skype call with a lady.
An Added BONUS: To make your video date more romantic we will present the lady a box of chocolate candies on your behalf when she comes to have the video conference with you.
You need to have Skype installed on your computer to have a "Video Date" with a lady. Skype is a software that allows you to make calls to other Skype accounts all over the world absolutely free of charge. Downloading Skype is free at Skype.com"
Also in long run forwarding letters at Mordinson pretty expensive not per each letter but because of the price you pay is so many 100 dollars... Mordinson however has very cheap letter forwarding unlimited plan for like 90 days to unlimited girls but all fees included they are way too expensive.....
In somewhat both signs is shown here so we will not recommend Mordinson,
Mordinson has like 5 serious honest complaints and also another thing serious by its testimonials, and also against it founder of Mordinson tracked down by his ip adress and email and also their payment model charge by minute fast price in video chat thereof we will never recommend them.
At Cinderella1 you get double 1 hour for 50 dollars Skype video live chat, and they do not ulter any pictures with photoshop not saying Mordinson do that either, if girls not is as in pictures when you meet her at cinderella you get 75 dollars back, cinderella1 has money back garentuee and no dishonest evil as Mordinson done in the complaints shown about them.
Important to meantion here it does not need to be completely blind dates as we understood it from Mordinsons webpage but still the cost nomatter what, is to expensive several thousend dollars.... Come on people... If you think this is worth it spending your money on then go ahead waste it, you been warned about the honest complaints about them, Mordinson etc. We also understand they Mordinson is a marriage agency, and not an ordinary date site, but still the prices is to expensive, and we think most men Worldwide on average would agree... Also the complaints against Mordinson is also to serious, and payment model is not the best either, nor the prices at Mordinson, therefore we completely do not recommend them at all.
The prices at Mordinson is whout reason thousends of dollars, does not matter how many girls you meet...
As you can meet any girl anywhere for free at how many blind dates you want in life, for free without paying 2650 dollars.... Does not matter that translation is included, you can hire a translator for a very cheap price in Ukraine or Russia.
So anyone recommend Mordinson who clearly do not live up to their hype, by its complaints shown, well those poor people will lose thousends of dollars for nothing... If Mordinson do not live up to its image... Even if some people claim happy ends at Mordinson, it still is not worth several 1000 dollars... When you can get the same results for free in daily life or cheaper at much more honest and reliable service with 0 true honest complaints at cinderella1 with a long trackrecord sence like 2008 according to their copyright, or use cheaper monthly subscription date sites or free date sites with overall good online reputation and screen out the scammers yourself etc, as no date site is totally clean of scammers, most likely...
Important to meantion here it does not need to be completely blind dates as we understood it from Mordinsons webpage but still the cost nomatter what, is to expensive several thousend dollars.... Come on people... If you think this is worth it spending your money on then go ahead waste it, you been warned about the honest complaints about them, Mordinson etc. We also understand they Mordinson is a marriage agency, and not an ordinary date site, but still the prices is to expensive, and we think most men Worldwide on average would agree... Also the complaints against Mordinson is also to serious, and payment model is not the best either, nor the prices at Mordinson, therefore we completely do not recommend them at all.
That price is sick huge for meeting some girls in a blind date.... That you can do meet girls in real life as many you want for free... Does not matter if it would have been a month almost 3000 dollars to meet some girls in blind dates its not worth it, that you can do for free in your home country etc.
We believe Mordinson is far more expensive then Cinderella1, we believe its possible to contact them and arrage to meet the girls in Poltava and skip most maybe not all but most letters and video chats and just come to their office in Poltava and meet them face to face, and that most likely will not cost you 2650 dollars... But alot of less for their service in Cinderella1. This is a theory we are not sure, you have to confirm this by contacting Cinderella1 themself.
Mordinson also has serious complaints against it owner as well, so we will never recommend them, as it seams he posted fake testimonials to recommend his service to others shows desperation...
And got banned by admin and tracked down by ip adress and email, a very serious complaint, more about that a bit above on this website.
As previously stated I am not sure about Mordinson.com or Cinderella1.com and for moment do not recommend any of them, however I believe the 2 is far better then most of the date scam sites out there. I also believe Cinderella1.com is no scam and Mordinson.com is better but still has some doubts.
Best go for free sites or low monthly subsciptions date sites with honest reputations.
Going with Mordinson.com or Cinderella1.com you do completely on your own risk, as I can not and will not fully recommend them yet as I know to little of them in own experiences or through trustworthy sources, however I do believe they are far better then whats out there online from Ukraine and Russia.
What is plus with Mordinson is the free 1 letter introduction (seams to be a bit of a lie here as one need first get verified cost 1 dollar "In order to get verified you need to make a one time nonrefundable payment of $1 (one US dollar)
To make the verification payment, please Click HERE ((our on-line store is verified by Visa Inc. and we accept VISA cards only)
Once the verification payment is made, please, send your introduction letter to: mail@mordinson.com along with your photographs and the list of the ladies you are interested in." source http://www.mordinson.com/personals.html" personally I think absolutely free of charge shall mean just that...absolutely free of charge... Just my personally opinion... Honesty certainly matters even in small things as well as in big things...) introduction letter (Mordinson.com) to get to know your lady and if she is intrested a big plus and videoclips of the girls a big plus, however bad is its not so cheap, a pretty big sum to get lady through them, and I personally do not buy into some of their testimonials that they are so honest and true, not from that testimonial person, as that person is seen doing some things very evil, in another vidd...
However Mordinson (Mordinson.com) might be good, can not base all things on one persons testimonial at their sites.
Even Cinderella1 (Cinderella1.com) might be good, however I did not easily find video of each girl, I might missed but if not there its a big minus, as pictures says very little but a recorded video live says very much about the ladies etc. Also I think the website is a bit hard navigate, a bit weirdly made and weird look and ways of browser women or girls in their gallery of Cinderella1.com ... However Mordinson.com I think is much better website overall to use and easier navigate.
As previously stated I am not sure about Mordinson.com or Cinderella1.com and for moment do not recommend any of them, however I believe the 2 is far better then most of the date scam sites out there. I also believe Cinderella1.com is no scam and Mordinson.com is better but still has some serious doubts... Not recommend Mordinson.com at all, because all shown about them.
Only go by what we confirmed to list on this Blog site, we want none fooled ever (this is tested true, but reviewer can have other things not perfected tested on his own site, but this is 1000 percent more then true and honest etc best Online ever, we only list the verified tested true things like this, highly recommend all Worldwide men use, if problem you get refund so no worries, and there will rarely be any problems): NEW INFO: CINDERELLA1.COM MIGHT IN SOON FUTURE GO OVER COMPLETELY TO MONTHLY SUBSCRIPTION COST TOTALLY TO ELIMINATE ANY DOUBT, AS THEY ARE CONSIDERING THIS AT THE VERY MOMENT, FOUNDER OF CINDERELLA1.COM STATED, IN RECENT DAYS. AFTER SUGGESTING THAT TO THEM AS A VALIED AND HONEST OPTION. SOME OF THEIR OPTIONS ARE ALSO FREE AT CURRENT, NOT ALL BUT SOME FEW:
WE HIGHLY RECOMMENDSCinderella1.comBEST HONEST MARRIAGE DATING AGENCY ONLINE TODAY NO QUASTION ABOUT IT read below: (The girls do not have easily the resources, as it cost proberly a bit of money to fake a real passport in hand, not saying its impossible, but hard to do in Ukraine and Russia who is overall pretty poor countries.)
All girls also seam to be passport verified so no age deception of girls or so is easily faked, or relationship status (however some girls can in all sites be dishonest, but if that happends report them to cinderella1 and they gets removed from marriage agency and you get your money back refund no quastion asked, if this is proven to be the case), and they are also screened out to be verified, honest and serious, seeking marriage for life, however no site can garuentee all girls, is serious, if they do they lie... (Cinderella1 is the most close Online ever to be totally scam free thow, as very honest and passport verified girls and intreviewed etc long meting with each girl by Cinderella1 staff, to make sure they are honest and no scammers, and Cinderella1 do never ever pay any girl ever, for chat or letters or anything, not even one cent ever and never will do ever, as they are very honest serious and reliable Marriage Date Agency, with many years of honest successful trackrecord like from 2008 and with like 0 true complaints..), but if any girl is unserious report ther to cinderella1 and they will remove her from marriage agency and give you all money back no quaastion asked, founder of Cinderella1 confirmed this. Also Cinderella1 is not the same as Cinderella two diffrent companies. Marriage Agency Cinderella1 is no a ordinary cheap date site, but Marrage Agency thereof it might cost a bit more, but its very honest or if not best online of all as 0 true complaints, and online and good trackrecord from like 2008.
This Gold List contains all the good marriage agencies.
I am the owner and founder of marriage-agencies-scams.com.I live in the USA and have been to Ukraine many times.I am a expert on Ukrainian marriage agencies scams and marriage agenices in general.This is what I have found! Basically,70% of Russian marriage agencies are scams. Of the 30% that are legitimate, 50% have unethical practices that serve only to get your money. Russian scam agencies out number legitimate agencies. Marriage agencies in Ukraine continue to find new methods of scaming you and some of these scams are more difficult to detect as a scam. However, I have been operating this site long enough to spot even the slyest scam.
Contact me any time with any kind of question or comment.
(Good Honest Truthful Reliable Information, however do not trust Mordinson.com its been shown they have deceptive ways, and also have some serious complaints etc, and other really bad
unbiblically evils shown from
those on their website Mordinson.com that recommends them in their testimonials).
Earlier Dave Stevens had them Mordinson.com on his blacklist and hopefully they suerly will go back to the blacklist not use, soon also, he is warned of Mordinsons practises, as shown on this Website etc).
"Are all Ukrainian dating sites bad?
I can no longer recommend to you a site Elena’s Models. All opinions and reviews on the site are from the period before the reform . "
Said by Anastasiadatefraud.com there is much truth to this statement.
Vital info updated 2015-11-01, new info added below: Trust worthy reliable who went to their office even confirms this:
Dave Steven even confirms this to be truth about Elenas Models (in the middle of web link and also at right corner more info about Elenas models and their dishonest practises... Posing off as Jim... Jimlist and Marriageagencyscams.com in Past... to fool competition and so on in huge dishonest ways, If this were the case, it certainly looks really bad for them). Many others customers also confirm this saying to be true, they were only good in past Elenas Models, but not today after reform, now they are not good at all, but yes its possible to find a honest girl in their site, but most or many is scammers and very bad or low honest response rate, and also can be som racial hardness with the site overall, not only by the girls or primerly, or not so much of the girls in general speaking from Ukraine or Russia, but with the site Elenas models way of doing things etc, more about this below: What others says about them here vital info updated 2015-11-01, new info added below:
We have personally talked to "Jim" by email, and cannot validate his identity so this might in worst case be true said of other people, with better experience and some investigation, done by other people, of witch one expert, more or less, said "Jim" beeing of Elenas Models, or similair, its sad news. And our personally experience with Elenas Models, has been not good, but however, some few of today have had success with them, even today they claim. So you yourself have to decide... Elenas models were only good in past before reform, cannot be recommended safe today, has to many scammers, they not always seam to delete on their site, better in past it seams in that area also.
More about Elenas Models what other people say about them at end of this Blogg, its hard showing the truth of them today, only in past before the reform Elenas Models were good, and trustworthy...
Cinderella1 were started of Americans just like us who were seeking serious honest wife in Ukraine and Russia, but as us they got tired of all scams, and fake date agencies, paying girls money etc, and fake dishonest translators, in all those scam per per letter translate fee sites...
So they created Cinderella1 and founders now live in Ukraine to oversee the business in person to make sure no scams happends.
Cinderella1 were created to serve us the people a honest Marriage Dating Agency, with best intentions no girl is getting paid here ever, and never will.
And Cinderella1 do not list girls with boyfriends or huspands, ever by intent, but if a girl is dishonest, report her to Cinderella1 she will be removed from Marriage Agency Cinderella1, and your money will be refunded no quastion asked.
All girls seam to be passport verified so no age deception of girls or so is easily faked, or relationship status (however some girls can in all sites be dishonest, but if that happends report them to cinderella1 and they gets removed from marriage agency and you get your money back refund no quastion asked, if this is proven to be the case), and they are also screened out to be verified, honest and serious, seeking marriage for life, however no site can garuentee all girls, is serious, but is any girl is unserious report ther to cinderella1 and they will remove her from marriage agency and give you all money back no quastion asked, founder of Cinderella1 confirmed this. Also Cinderella1 is not the same as Cinderella two diffrent companies. Marriage Agency Cinderella1 is no a ordinary cheap date site, but Marrage Agency thereof it might cost a bit more, but its very honest or if not best online of all as 0 true complaints, and online and good trackrecord from like 2008. This could be good or bad if clients wants more girls to choose from in diffrent age ranges etc. But this makes the Marriage Agency Cinderella1 site more honest: Because Cinderella1 is a Marriage Agency thereof the cost is a bit more expensive then ordinary date sites, but more honest and serious for marry opposite sex so a high recommend, because all their girls is interviewed and passport verified and they wanna have controll of the girls beeing sincere and honest for marriage they do not have so many women, maybe a max like some few 100s girls in their professional honest sincere Marriage Agency Cinderella1 etc. Update added about this here 2015-07-01: It were nothing but lies their false evil accusations or claims that did not had any true evidence: the girl some very very very few people without any real proof falsely labeled as not honest or almost guilty refuted the false accusations, she is honest and singel and a teacher and model part time, has has no boyfriend. She is honestly seeking a man for Marry for life in Cinderella1 Marriage Agency Poltava, this is also verified to be the truth by Cinderella1 staff manager. Shame on her false accusers and those who falsely without any proof go against the honest and best service ever Cinderella1 Marriage Agency, that never ever and never will pay any girl ever! Lets hope the people with its leader in group repents, of the guilty ones, not all in that group is guilty of the false accusations and stop making up fabricated stories, lies about having dated this girl..., mostly its groups leader its refers to, and some other few people maybe is the guilty ones of these false accusations and its group leader lies up fabricated stories to decive the people publically online, and they claim to work for honesty and truth and justice we see what God says about that on judgement day, hypocrits those are those who do this as they work by lies themselfs in order to do "good" they think... (bashing good honest sites and a honest girl is not good work! but evil!), especially refering to its leader of the group lets hope and pray he repents, and all others of the few guilty ones in its group etc of false accusations without a shreed of true hard evidence, facts or true honest complainst etc nada and still they pronouce people and companies guilty... Stop beeing wicked and repent those of the guilty ones doing this. To decern and test all things yes, thats one thing, but never are we allowed to pronounce anyone or any company guilty of anything if we have no real honest true proof or no real complaints etc against them for our for our claim! Lets hope the negative false feedback about this girl is removed and false accusations etc, as its a personally attack on a innocent honest girl, to show her pictures and vk account etc, one thing would be if there existed some real evidence or hard facts, but that is not the case, same with cinderella1 exist like 0 true honest complaints against them, so to the few false accusers without evidence lets hope you repent.
Lets hope those few people with their false accusations with 0 evidence proof or true honest complaints and fabricated stories by one person leader of that group involved in this repents: To their false accusers who made up fabricated stories of dating girl from Cinderella1 in order to bash the site and lies about that girl have boyfriend, without any real proof as VK status or pictures of girl kisses the guy..., if Cinderella1 were so scammy where are are all online reports and complaints, I said Cinderella1 (Poltava,Ukraine)not Cinderella Dnepropetrovsk witch is another company witch diffrent founder or founders, its a completely another agency, witch been reported Online as a scam, it seams, who is completely another diffrent agency or company, to to be on safe side is best to stay away from or avoid, according to the report, As also All Real scam pay per letter translate fee sites, have ton of complaints Online etc.
Cinderela1 has like 0 complaints, 0 true complaints under so many years in business according to their sites copyright sence 2008, extremely if not best in business ever, extremely good track record!!! And scamadviser is 99 percent accurate, nomatter what some false people say, as they are angry beeing exposed some of them, repent be honest. If a scam girl is detected report to Cinderella1 and get refund money back, as simple as that, but they screen girls good before so, this very rarely happends like 99 percent is honest and serious of the girls on Cinderella1, wanting to get married in lifelong marriage, without any Visa scams etc. Also good Skype video chat, no recorded scam faked videos through the site, you can ask lady to stand up move around to eliminate any doubt in Skype video chat, that she is real etc, so very honest through Skype, and not as the other scam sites pay per letter translate fee sites sometimes do., through their sites with recorded videos of girls etc... NEW INFO: CINDERELLA1.COM MIGHT IN SOON FUTURE GO OVER COMPLETELY TO MONTHLY SUBSCRIPTION COST TOTALLY TO ELIMINATE ANY DOUBT, AS THEY ARE CONSIDERING THIS AT THE VERY MOMENT, FOUNDER OF CINDERELLA1.COM STATED, IN RECENT DAYS. AFTER SUGGESTING THAT TO THEM AS A VALIED AND HONEST OPTION. SOME OF THEIR OPTIONS ARE ALSO FREE AT CURRENT, NOT ALL BUT SOME FEW:
WE HIGHLY RECOMMENDSCinderella1.comBEST HONEST MARRIAGE DATING AGENCY ONLINE TODAY NO QUASTION ABOUT IT!!!
Update however we strongely now believe Cinderella1.com is the most and best honest date site online today, so they are our One Only For Now recommendation for serious dating and marriage for life with your dream true honest kind gentle Ukrainian girl or woman or Russian girl or woman, if you wanna date in Ukraine or Russia, however, it might not be safe to travel to Ukraine right now, because of War: http://liveuamap.com/ and http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-28969784 and http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-28969784etc. New info added here 2015-06-07 from Dave Stevens an American another very trustworthy reviewer with years of experience, who also lived there or lives there and knows the truth in person:
http://marriage-agencies-scams.com/blog(Good Honest Truthful Reliable Information, however do not trust Mordinson.com its been shown they have deceptive ways, and also have some serious complaints etc, and other really bad unbiblically evils fom those on their website that recommends them in their testimonials).Earlier Dave Stevens have them Mordinson.com on his blacklist and suerly will go back to blacklist not use soon also, he is warned of Mordinsons practises, as shown on this Website etc). (Generally some good advices: This Must be said be careful to where ever you travel, make sure you trust the person you travel to, like good is you have video skype chatted and she moves around in video so you are sure she is real. Ukraine some parts is not safe to travel to, because of war, and corruptions etc, and Crimea is not good to travel to for dating, and Odessa is also not good to travel to for dating at least not by online dating letter translate fee scam sites etc. And Ghana not safe to travel to for dating. Best would be is possible to get the girl to travel to you in USA or Europe, but she herself must be able to pay her own tickets and travel expenses. However its understandable girls will refuse to travel overseas as they do not know who you are in real person... So its a bit tricky how to make the first meeting. If the girl is dishonest and is a scammer, it can be very dangerous to travel to them, as a rule never travel to Ghana or Africa or Nigeria to meet someone you only chatted with online, and never meet in reality or know in real face meeting... And never ever send money to someone you only know Online, and never meet in real meeting in reality. Best rule is to never ever send money ever to someone you not know in reality, but even this can be bad, best is to never send money ever to people except people you trust close in your family at birthday and gifts etc. To give to charity through trustworthy companies or congregations or churches, and so on to help the Biblically Gospel to be spread across the globe and help the poor people around the World, you can do thats safe, but not to send any money or gifts private to people you not meet in reality, who you only know online, thats a red flag, best to avoid completely. As said or meantion before, it exist better ways to spend your money, then spend it on scam date evils and scams and scam date translate fee sites with their scam video chat or chat pay per minute, that also has ton of bad reviews and true honest complaints of people Worldwide etc: Like to give to charity through trustworthy companies or congregations or churches, and so on to help the Biblically Gospel to be spread across the globe and help the real honest poor people and children around the World, you can do thats safe, but not to send any money or gifts private to people you not meet in reality, who you only know online, thats a red flag, best to avoid completely. To travel to Russia and Ukraine is more safe, but still, if you only talked with them online, you really do not know who they are in reality, only way to make sure is Skype video chat and girl must move around, ask her so you know she is real, and not fake video recorded video, wave hand might not be enough, as video recorded video can obey certain commands to fool you.
First time you travel to Ukraine and Russia it would be good to travel with some friends and notify people close you travel to Ukraine or Russia so people know, if something happends, where you are, and good is to have friends with you the first times, so you can protect each other. Personally we recommend a trustworthy Marriage Agency with long trackrecord and good Online reputation as Cinderella1.comthat has like 0 true honest complaints from like 2008 Cinderella1.com through them you are safe, you make arrangement through them, who are based in Ukraine in Poltava (Cinderella1.comAmerican Owned Marriage Agency Honest trustworthy best in business no doubt, 0 true complaints from 2008 and long honest good trackrecord and good online reputation from 2008, and their testimonials do not hide away but give out their contact details so you can talk to them and verify all with them in truth, more then anyone can say about the real scam pay per letter translate fee scam date sites and pay per chat per minutes scam date sites with their scam agencies, that also have tons of bad complaints and bad reviews etc), and meet the girls in real live meeting through Cinderella1.com it eliminates the danger of traveling alone to Ukraine. All girls are passport verified and their status, and personally interviewed. If a girl is dishonest and have local boyfriend or ask for money report them you get refund from Cinderella1.com girl is banned from Marriage agency Cinderella1.com No girls is getting paid ever by Cinderella1.com but all like 99,9 percent is serious and wants to find huspand for life. Of course some girls few might be dishonest this could happend in any date service, but in Cinderella1.com its very few like 1 in 100. Again Cinderella1 were started of Americans just like us who were seeking serious honest wife in Ukraine and Russia, but as us they got tired of all scams, and fake date agencies, paying girls money etc, and fake dishonest translators, in all those scam per per letter translate fee sites...
So they created Cinderella1 and founders now live in Ukraine to oversee the business in person to make sure no scams happends.
Cinderella1 were created to serve us the people a honest Marriage Dating Agency, with best intentions no girl is getting paid here ever, and never will.
And Cinderella1 do not list girls with boyfriends or huspands, ever by intent, but if a girl is dishonest, report her to Cinderella1 she will be removed from Marriage Agency Cinderella1, and your money will be refunded no quastion asked.
There is like no true complainst from so many years in business sence 2008 according to their site copyright... Witch is the best in business ever no doubt..: http://www.scamadviser.com/check-website/cinderella1.com(very trust worthy seamingly and extremely honest) Scamadviser is very trustworthy nomatter what some people says those who complain is mostly those who hates the truth about them beeing shown..)
New Scams
Avoiding Women Scams
If a Russian woman asks for money, it’s a scam. Why won't you believe me?!!!!!!
Plain and simple. A Russian woman would NEVER ask for money or complain about her financial situation. I live here, I know. They don't earn a lot, but that's changing. People aren't poor like 10 years ago. Jobs are paying better now and many people have a lot of money. Making ends meet isn't hard as it used to be. If you get a letter where she complains about her low paid occupation, sick relative or broken computer, be careful. It’s the first step of the money whine. Russian girls are proud and never outright ask for money. READ!!!! Any girl talking about tickets, visas, travel agencies or marriage should be avoided...or at least google her name when she does it. YOU GUYS...WAKE UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Best not take Gods name in vain so removed that part my add).
If she asks you to send her money to come and meet you.
The scammers have realized that the "I love you - send me money" scam is working anymore, so the last resort to try and get money is the tickets/visa scam. NO nice, everyday girl would ever do this. They would never fly to another country to meet a guy they never bet before. You might be an ax-murderer. Read the visa page about visa problems.
If she tells you that she uses an agency and needs money to pay.
Agencies charge men and don't charge women. Any girl that says this is either working with the "agency" or doesn't exist and it's someone with photos of pretty girls, sitting in a room, writing letters, and taking your money.
If she wants to meet you in a third location.
Many girls have no problem writing letters for months simply to have a free vacation. Why would you pay for 2 tickets? Go to her country.
If she loves you after 3 weeks or 3 letters.
These girls are intelligent and they don't fall in love like mindless morons. They are well aware that love needs time, and for goodness' sake, a face to face meeting.
And the strangest, most difficult scam...
Here is a big (Ukraine-style) scam. You correspond, you talk on the phone, you go and visit. You pay for everything, taxis, interpreters, gifts, you go back home. The girl loves your time together, you continue to correspond and maybe visit again. Where's the scam? The agency is making a fortune from your letters and visits, they want it to continue, but the never had any intention of a future with you. How can you spot this scam? You can't. Read reports on your agency before you get too deeply involved.
NEW (SEPT '10) - Good news. There are NO MORE new scams by girls. There is only ONE type of scams that the girls do these days. The travel scam. If your girl states that she wants to visit you and that she went to a travel agency, this is the scam. If you get a letter from a travel agency, it is a scam. The visa/passport/travel scam is the only scam that girls are doing these days. It is the only scam that works now. So, they have no choice but to use it. Girls never visit guys that they have never met before, it is TOO dangerous in our world these days.
NEW (MAY '09) - Because these scammers send out so much spam, guys get many letters out of the blue. Many guys then ask the girl where she got his email address. This is a canned response that is used a lot and if you ever see it, you know it IS a scammer. Here is the scammer reply to avoid - "I went to the internet cafe and I told them that I wanted to meet a foreign man and they gave me your email address.)
NEW (Aug '07) - This is actually not new, it is VERY old. But I thoughtg that it was so easy to see, I didn't need to warn guys about it. But, I guess this scam happens to guys that are not aware of Russian scammers. If you join a regular dating site and either write to a girl or get a letter from a girl, then after one or 2 letters from her, she reveals that she is Russian and she had to list her country as yours because the site would never let her join because she is Russian - DROP HER IMMEDIATELY. This is how scammers find unsuspecting guys. A real girl would never do this.
NEW (July '07) - There is a new trend in scamming. It is getting a lot of guys and making the owners very rich. The worst part is that most of the guys have no idea that they are being scammed. New dating websites (for FSU girls) are being set up. They are not agencies, just regular dating sites. They are fake. They are a scam. They are easy for me to see because I have been operating my site since 1999. How can you spot them? Quite easily. They are good looking web sites with thousands of women. And ALL the women are BEAUTIFUL. This is IMPOSSIBLE. On any site and at any agency, you get a variety of women. And as in real life, there should be more average women than beautiful women. If you see a site that has ALL amazing women, something is wrong. Ask me to check one if I don't have it listed yet.
NEW (May '07) - I have recently noticed a huge change in scamming. There are far fewer individual scammers and more groups. These groups are starting to leave English sites and are targeting German, French, Spanish and Italian men. Because all antiscam sites are in English, the scammers think that they can more easily scam non-English speaking guys. So, that is why I have translated my main pages into these other languages.
READ!!!! TELEPHONES - Some guys are saying that if a girl says that she has no phone or doesn't give you her telephone immediately, that it is a sign of a scammer. THIS IS FALSE!!!! Many Russian apartments do NOT have phones. And girls get calls from some pretty crazy guys that scare them, so not giving their contact info right away is a good idea. And if they accept calls from abroad on their mobile phones, they have to pay a lot for it. IF a girl immediately asks for YOUR phone number, this is a bad sign. And if a girl calls you, this is 99% a scammer. These girls cannot afford to call overseas to all the guys that write them. A scammer does it to hook the guy. Trust me.
New (Dec '05) - The hi-tech scammer. They are putting scripts in their letters and when you download the letters onto your computer mail server (Outlook Express, etc), the script starts reading your computer; looking for credit card information. Search your registry from time to time if you use your computer mail server and have letters from Russian girls saved there.
New (Oct '05) - HOT OFF THE PRESS!! A new scam wherein the girl says that she is a US or British citizen in Africa. They need money for one reason or another. They use photos of Caucasian girls, so it looks real. Most likely they need help getting out of Africa. Aren't these African scammers getting cleverer? If the Russian stereotypical scammer is named Hairy Yuri, what shall we call the African male scammer posing as a woman...Muscular Mumbasa?
New (Sept '05) - I now have 2 reports (one about Russian girls and one about African girls) going to the states with a group of models. They need your help to arrange the hotel or apartment for them. Time ranging from 1-6 months. You do the leg-work and receive a commission of some sort. Somewhere in this you must open a bank account or something like that. This is a scam. They have something planned and because you were the one to arrange everything, you are liable for their scam.
New (Aug 05) - New cheque cashing and deposit scams are becoming more popular. They ask for your bank account and say they will put money in it for you to transfer to someone else. Or to deposit or cash a cheque. You can keep a portion as a commission. Everything seems to be great. Then the FBI pr bank wants to know why you passed a bad cheque or transferred money that didn't really exist. YOU are liable for this money!
NEW (Mar. '05) - Scammers are now asking for your telephone number and calling you. If you check, some calls are coming from the US. I think they are getting info on you and either planning to scam you at home, or rob your house when you go visit the girl. Another report is that when you call her, there is an extra charge on the bill that they somehow get. Most girls don't give out their home phone too soon into it.
NEW (Apr. '05) - The Lithuanian apartment scam. They contact you or you contact them and they instantly want you to fly to them to meet them. You either pay for the apartment in advance and lose your money, or you get there, meet the girl, pay the apartment and then she disappears. How to spot the scam? A girl wanting you to instantly fly to her without writing a few letters is a bad sign. A girl telling you to use her contacts is a bad sign. But the easiest way to see this scam...she will want you to stay in an apartment because she doesn't want anyone seeing her visit you at your hotel and think she is a prostitute. A good reason, but it gives away these scammers.
NEW (Jan. '05) - Someone invested in a real tourist visa and is using it to scam. It looks real and the girl says that she has a few weeks left on the visa before it expires, but she needs money for the ticket...and of course, asks for your help. Wow, great opportunity, right? Yes, to steal your money. I repeat - GO TO HER COUNTRY! The visa on my homepage and Facts page is the example of a visa no longer used by US Embassies.
NEW (Jan. '05) - The new travel agency scam. Scammers are posing as travel agencies rather than dating agencies. It looks great and they can get visas and tickets for your girl. It's a scam. They are changing their names almost every week. Use the travel agents on my travel page. Don't send an unknown agency any money. ALL employees of travel agencies in Russia are women!!! Notice that the fake agencies have men as the person to send money to? You're talking to a guy!!
A new breed of scammer is going to cause problems. They let you go and visit them in their country. You have a wonderful time and arrange to meet in a 3rd country for your next meeting. After you send the money, she disappears. How can you protect against this scam? Use the travel agents on my travel page. You can send the money there and the girls can't take it.
Groups of Russians already in the US posing as girls in FSU. Letters come from FSU, through the office there. One day, the girl says she is visiting the US and wants to meet. (She has already investigated you.) Then she needs money for lawyer fees, or for a relative to visit OR...she wants to visit home with you. While you are away, your house is burglarized.
A bad scammer will ask for money after a few letters. A good scammer will wait a few months. A VERY good scammer will wait 6-12 months. Time makes no difference. ANY time they ask for money, it's bad!!
Scammers and fake agencies are using the same email servers for a time, then changing them. I guess it is easier to keep track of possible victims this way. What this means is that they will all use, for example, rbcmail.com, for a while, then change it. It has taken a long time, but I now see the pattern. Like I said, a real girl will use mail.ru, yandex.ru or rambler.ru. Other servers being used by scammers right now are gawab.com and gmail.com. (Yes, google mail. You need to be invited to get this address, so scammers are inviting themselves.)
DON'T SEND MONEY!! If you do, ask the clerk if this girl ask been sent money from other guys, they can answer this. (Read here about Western Union problems.)
Don’t think that a woman is serious because she is on an agency’s site or placed her own ad and even wrote to you. Most girls do this because they are simply curious about the result that her ad will bring. It’s always free for them, so why not try. They might like the idea of a foreign husband, but not ready to go through with it. Russian people talk a lot more than they actually do.
If a profile says absolutely nothing, or the opposite, it sounds like a long, love story, it is likely that the girl is not serious. And profiles where the girl says she's a virgin, or loves sex, again, not serious.
If she refuses to directly give you her full name, address or telephone number when you ask for it. There is no reason for her not to give it to you. And if she blames the agency for this, ask the agency. A serious girl will also want to move away from the agency.
If you get prompt, regular, long letters, it might be someone sitting on a computer all day writing letters. These girls are busy and can't write all the time, or long. You should get letters just like you get from friends. "Sorry, I can't write much, I'm busy. I'll write more in a few days." Some girls now have computers at home, but if she says she goes to an agency or cafe, but still writes every day, I would raise an eyebrow.
If she sends a photo with every letter without you asking for it and never asks for your photo. Usually, you already know what she looks like, so there's no need for her to send a photo at all. And these girls are very interested in seeing your photo. So, after exchanging photos once, the photo question is done.
If she changes her email address suddenly, this could be a negative sign. Send an introductory letter to her old address from your alias friend a couple weeks afterwards and see what happens.
Visas. It is difficult for FSU citizens to get a visa to a western country. For Europe, maybe 1 in 20 can get one. The others are flat out rejected. For North America, it’s about 1 in 100. (I’m very serious.) Anyone who says, "I’ll get a visa in a 3-6 days." is lying to you. It’s next to impossible. 3-6 days to hear that they were rejected.
People who work at the airport CANNOT get tickets at a discount. Even people who work at a travel agency don't get a discount. A taxi is any car that stops and the cost is about $2 for anywhere in the city. Maybe $5 or $10 for Moscow and Kiev. A translator should cost about $5-10 a day. Or $50 a week.
Many girls have many profiles. It's free for them, so why not do it for a better chance at meeting Mr. Right? But, if the information (name, age, city) is different, it's probably a sure sign of a scammer. There are large affiliate network of agencies. So, a girl could have a profile on each affiliate. AND...many girls are so sincere, that they have their profile removed after they start corresponding with someone special. Ask the agency why her profile was removed, the answer should help.
These girls can't afford to join a pay matchmaking site, so if you get a response to your ad on a site other than a free site, ask yourself how she has money to do this. Some girls have time and a computer at work, so they can surf and reply to (free) ads, but they usually sit back and wait for replies to their ads. Some girls do have money to join pay sites, but then she should have money to so things. NO girl asks for money!!!
Of course, letters where she doesn't answer your questions, or ask specific questions about you and your life are a sign of something not right. They want to know you before they can know if they want to be with you.
If you happen to mention to a scammer that you saw her on a blacklist (never do it) and she calmly explains to you that she had a bad experience with a guy in the past, and he put her on the blacklist; (this is what a scammer does when confronted) so, ask yourself why she knows that she is on a blacklist...and isn't worried about it. Wouldn't you be completely shocked that you were found on a blacklist and do everything you could to get your name removed from it? Scammers don't usually contact me. Stray dogs don't complain to the dog catcher.
There are cases where the woman goes along with everything right through to the marriage, and soon after, runs away. You could never protect yourself against this, but always be looking for signs before you get to that point. (Read here for help with that.)
If a girl has family already living in your country, stay away fro her. Especially if she is from Ukraine. She will use you to get there and either file for refugee status upon arrival or wait until she gets her citizenship and then leave you. These girls research this in detail and are ready to use you to their benefit.
If a girl tells you that her family has approved of her moving abroad, she is feeding you a line to relax your worried mind. Most Russians, especially older Russians and especially those in the family don't believe in leaving Russia. They are very patriotic and believe that Russians should marry Russians and live in Russia.
Avoiding Agency Scams
This is much more difficult. They are sly and constantly changing there techniques. This is the best help I can give on a list. If you have specific questions about techniques, features or agencies, just ask me. Explanation of agency networks
NEW (May '09) - Avoid ANY business proposal from ANY Russian or African. They are usually bank scams. They put money in your account and then withdraw most of it. They leave some for you. But then the bank or police come and tell you that it was fraud and you are responsible for the money.
Just because they say they are not a scam and they are honest; that doesn’t mean a thing. Some scam sites have a scammer page or warn about scammers. Don't let that fool you.
If, after a few letters from a lady, you get a letter from an agency, asking for money, forget them. They let you talk with the girl to get you hooked so you'll pay. READ!! The girls never pay to join an agency, so if you get a letter saying "the girl's account is overdue", it's a scam!! It's free for them. This is a big tactic now!! AND... Ukraine law prohibits businesses from using Western Union!! (Read here about Western Union problems.)
Be careful of special offers. (E.g. monthly translating for $100.) Not that it’s a scam, but it’s a classic technique of scamming you out of your money in one shot. Check out the "Standards" page for real costs (as well as a gift service).
Agencies use ringers. (Beautiful girls not interested in you. They are paid to have their photo on the site. Why? To get your money.) Agencies use all the photos they have. Some are years old. I can't help you with this one. Just be careful of agencies with 1,000's of photos. And, agencies with very few photos.
I just discovered a technique by these makeshift agencies with no website who advertise their girls on free sites. They take the profile off the site after they have received a number of emails for the girl. This is so that there is no record of her after you are scammed. Check for your girl's profile after a week or two.
Agencies don't want you to communicate with the girls directly (or even become a couple). Why? Because then the agency will stop receiving money. So, they tell little lies. They tell the girls that the man has many other women or isn't serious. They tell the man that the girl isn't serious or that they have other good girls for you to meet. Once you have direct contact (and get it quick), forget the agency and tell your lady not to listen to them. The agency knows nothing about you, so your lady should believe you.
Always get a full address and telephone number (and keep money transfer records) before sending money!! (Read here about Western Union problems.)
If an agency refuses to give you the full name, address and telephone number of a girl you are corresponding with. Why would they do this? It's not very ethical. I'd refuse to do business with them.
If an agency says you have to go to their country using their travel agency (which means you have to send them money.)...NO! YOU arrange your own travel. Don't send money! (Read here about Western Union problems.) Here is some tour info.
Agencies don’t take a girl’s photo off their site until she specifically asks them to. There could be thousands of girls that forgot they joined an agency and aren’t interested anymore, and simply don’t know their photo is still on the site. That’s why the "join date" or "last activity" features are good. Although the scam agencies lie about the join date, and they check mail every day (whereas a real girl has a life and can't check mail every day), so this applies to universal dating websites, not the actually Russian sites.
English level. Russian grades are 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. Corresponding to A, B, C, D, E in the West. Almost any person can pass with flying colors and not speak a word of the language. This number means nothing! Look for "No English", "Beginner", Simple Sentences", "Proficient", "Fluent", "Bilingual". Ask the agency directly how well she speaks English. And get a plain, understandable answer. Or better yet, talk to her yourself. Call her house, not the agency.
Almost everyone goes to university and gets a degree. So, when a 21-year old girl lists her occupation as "Doctor", it means she finished medical university, but it doesn’t mean she is an actual doctor. Don’t worry about what is stated on her profile for this.
Many sites hire a professional photography to take photos for the website now. The agencies know that a good site makes money; a bad looking site doesn’t. Don’t worry about professional looking photos. But do be careful about half-nude, (swimsuit magazine) beach and photos that look like they are from a magazine. (Check out the "model" photos page.)
Some agencies plaster the girls' photo with "Married" or "Engaged". If they can change the file to say married or engaged over the photo, isn’t it even easier to simply delete the photo? So, what’s the point of not deleting it and writing married or engaged on it? Yes, it’s a marketing ploy. Reputable agencies do it for their members, and that's fine. But beware of unknown agencies that do this.
Visas. Again, it is difficult for FSU citizens to get a visa to a western country. For Europe, maybe 1 in 20 can get one. The others are flat out rejected. For North America, it’s about 1 in 100. (I’m very serious.) Any agency that says, "We’ll arrange a visa in a 3-6 days. Just send us the money." is lying to you. It’s next to impossible.
Here is an example of a sentence translated by a computer program... "When I saw him(it), I screamed(shouted)." The brackets offer another option for the translation. If you see this, it doesn't mean it's a scam, of course. But you should be aware that it was done by a computer and ask the person who did it "Why?". You can go to www.translate.ru and translate things yourself. Ask the agency to send it in Russian and see what happens.
Be careful of profiles where the girl says she's a virgin, loves sex, or their photo is a bikini photo, half nude or their breasts are falling out of a shirt that is too small. These girls are NOT serious.
The "seeking age". 18 year old girls who list their partner's age as 18-50. No, sorry, that's a sure sign of something suspicious. As a guide, girls look for someone 10-15 years older than themselves.
"We have a good standing with the Better Business Bureau." This means nothing. The BBB rating system is a joke! 2 complaints a year gives you an "excellent" rating. 3-5 complaints give you a "good" rating. Only Americans complain to the BBB, and very few people do this. (I forgot, the BBB erases complaints after 2 years, so you never really know how many complaints are against a company.)
Always get a full address and telephone number (and keep money transfer records) before sending money!! (Read here about Western Union problems.)" ( My add Never send money ever to people you never meet in reality, but if you done it anyway always keep track records, but never do it, and never do it by Western Union, its impossible to track).
http://marriage-agencies-scams.com/blog (Good Honest Truthful Reliable Information, however do not trust Mordinson.com its been shown they have deceptive ways, and also have some serious complaints etc, and other really bad unbiblically evils fom those on their website that recommends them in their testimonials).Earlier Dave Stevens have them Mordinson.com on his blacklist and suerly will go back to blacklist not use soon also, he is warned of Mordinsons practises, as shown on this Website etc).
How scam date sites and maybe personally people scam others by Webcam live feeds:
(And in some scam date sites, girl is agreed on video shoots recorded, and sometimes videos is recorded or completely false girls but similair those in the scam date agencies with their sites profiles):
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It also exist of course real webcams as well but then its good to talk live and see person call you on phone or through Skype and maybe walk around or stand up a bit so you know person is real and not recorded for example: Be careful people, also see this video after around 5 min in it, scammers are much more clever: (exist programs in order to fake hand movements and waving with hand in "live video" or faked recorded video to scam us...):
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Warning to men Worldwide from BBC News Vital all, all info and videos vital aswell:
(Poor guy commited suicide over date online scam blackmail, Sextortion, also good evidence again how scammers can fake webcam, at 3:29 in video, prerecorded video that is programmed to obey computer commands as wave, smile, big smile for example... It also exist of course real webcams but then its good to talk live and see person call you on phone or through Skype and maybe walk around a bit or stand up so you know person is real and not recorded for example:
Very important not to expose yourself over Webcam to people you do not know in real or never you decide):
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NEW Warning from CBC NEWS to men and girls Worldwide, in memory of 15 year old Amanda Todd, trying also to solve the case, added here 2015-04-11:
(Very important not to expose yourself over Webcam to people you do not know in real or never you decide, poor girl took her life because of blackmail of pictures and webcam of nude or sexual content she did, she were also under 18 minor, in memory of 15 year old Amanda Todd, and also trying to solve the case of 15 year old child girl, Amanda Todds, Sextortion blackmailer put be found after her suicide and be put to justice, Police did not do enough, this whole incident could have been stopped if Police acted sooner of all Police reports of online Sextortion blackmailer stalker made by Family I guess or close people to 15 year old, Amanda Todd, some policereports Amanda Todd by help of her family mom and dad etc also might reported herself etc. However Police did not take it seriously enough in time, before it wasto late, see video):
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A year after her death, most people remember Amanda Todd from her YouTube video, holding up hand-written pages describing how one mistake in front of a webcam led to her torment by bullies at school and online. But beyond that viral video, the fifth estate reveals a more complex and disturbing story about what happened to the B.C. teenager driven to suicide in October 2012 – not just bullying, but the deliberate sexual extortion of a 15-year-old girl by online predators. the fifth estate host Mark Kelley goes deep into Amanda’s world, with never-before-seen videos and web chats from two personal laptops that her family shared with the fifth estate. With in-depth interviews from her mother, father and friends, Kelley reveals the untold story of The Sextortion of Amanda Todd.
More about Nigerian Letters (updated 2015-06-23): Triptogether.com site most girls is scammers another reason I believe she is not honest. "It is a scammers paradise, they are all scammers from Africa, , I also have come a cross few from Bulgaria. I tried to put down no one from Africa in my profile but it doesn't allow me to do so, , I think the operators are behind all the scams themselves."
More about this and even also in this case girls who scammed from this site triptogether.com a friend of mine, not all girls who is represented on this site is from triptogheter.com but most or many presented at the moment are: (Link updated daily or pretty often, please all check it out often): http://scammerswhogotsloppy.blogspot.com/ (Important to meantion not all girls from this site triptogheter.com is scammers, but most are, hopefully the site triptogheter.com that we strongely believe were founded by honest sincere people hopefully, take action after seeing or if seeing this information or gets notified about it from people maybe etc, and clean up their site of all scammers and scam girls and scam men maybe also posing off as girls at the site, and scam people, in some maybe also men, but most girls from Nigeria and Ghana etc who claim beeing the girls in photos at profiles that usually is stolen etc. The scam girls from Nigeri and Ghana usually most likely also works togheter with other scam men from Nigeria and Ghana etc, to succed in scamming people Worldwide for money. Never Ever send any money or gift or birthday gift or any form of gift or money to people Online you never meet in reality, also never meet them in reality by youself flying over there its not safe, as high risk countries is Nigeria and South Africa and most likely also Ghana risk country etc, it can cost you your money and maybe also life, Watch this Click Here Video about this Backup Click Here). "A world map of the 2014 Corruption Perceptions Index by Transparency International which measures "the degree to which corruption is perceived to exist among public officials and politicians". High numbers (blue) indicate less perception of corruption, whereas lower numbers (red) indicate higher perception of corruption." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_Perceptions_Index Best also to travel with a friend first time, never travel alone to high risk countries as Ukraine or Russia or Ghana, or Nigeriaand South Africaor Africa etc, or decide a common safe country to travel to both, and meet their at airport etc first time meeting, or use a safe reputable date site or true honest of the few marriage agency, then you can feel safe to travel, only marriage agency we recommend is cinderella1.com, thats has good, almost perfect 99,9 percent perfect trackrecord and like 0 true complainst sence 2008, best in the business, in our opinion and testing, by far Online ever. Another feature important to remember girls who are from Ghana or Nigeria or surrounding countries nearby West Africa etc, usually is not white like white from Europe or Sweden or USA, with white skin and blond and blue eyes etc or similar, but more of black or brunett and not as white, in skin colour even if some few might be white, they still are not as white usually as in European countries or in USA, if they look like from USA and European white girls on pictures or fake recorded videos with maybe some fake programmed winks and movements and claim they are from Nigeria or Ghana or Africa, they usually in 99,9 percent are scammers, also a important scam sign to look up for. Nothing against people who are not white, nothing against any race or any human race or skin colour etc, but we are against those who steal other people pictures and videos in order to scam others and pretend to be them committing identy theft, and impersonating other people etc. One thing to backup important videos to expose scammers and warn the people, is a diffrent good thing. If they can prove themself in video live and say a long message personally, like i like you and your city and country and full name and also say the same message write it on o note and hold up in live video, and if they look as their pictures, then they are no scammers, in this regard, they are who they claim, but their intentions, one can never be sure on until real face to face meeting. This video live request in live video is almost impossible to fake, its 99,9 percent accurate, or do a recorded video of this and send if she has no cam, is also ok, but best is that if she has a cam to prove herself in live video like this, remember wave and hold up some fingers is not enough as some fake recorded videos can obey certain easy commands to fool you...This is shown above on this website, and we can also show it here to: More about Watch this Warning to men Worldwide from BBC NEWSClick Here 3:29 min in Video about this Backup Watch this Warning to men Worldwide from BBC NEWS BackupClick Here 3:29 min in Video about this and watch this other Video,Watch this Click Here 5 min in Video about this Backup Click Here5 min in Video about this, and also Watch this other video important also to watch Click Here or Backup Click Here.
SIGNS TO LOOK OUT FOR BEEING A SCAM: Also do not believe a video in live feed working for only few seconds and then freezez and the scammer is blaming it on bad connection... True bad connection make Skype not working at all or speaking on Skype also true bad connection, shows video offline completely and when connection comes back video load again, it stops and load buffer, video will not just work few seconds and then freeze, and voice still on Skype working, nomatter the false claims lies of the scammer that she or he has really "bad Internet connection", no its not its a SCAM RUN STOP ALL COMMUNICATION WITH THE SCAMMER. If she or the person refuse to prove themself in live video, or recorded video live, by the specific personal details given by you, RUN ITS A SCAM, then she or he or whoever you speaking to is a scammer and do not exist as shown, because the scammer person is using someone else pictures and videos. If the scammer person insist sending you a picture proving she or he written a personally note to you holding up in picture do not accept it or believe that, as its most likely fake and photoshopped, only live video feed or live recorded video is accepted by the specific personally details given to the person to prove themself beeing at lest a real human beeing in the pictures and maybe also videos the person sent to you.
Best also to travel with a friend first time, never travel alone to high risk countries as Ukraine or Russia or Ghana, or Nigeria or Africa etc, or decide a common safe country to travel to both, and meet their at airport etc first time meeting, or use a safe reputable date site or true honest of the few marriage agency, then you can feel safe to travel, only marriage agency we recommend is cinderella1.com, thats has good, almost perfect 99,9 percent perfect trackrecord and like 0 true complainst sence 2008, best in the business, in our opinion and testing, by far Online ever.
The Scammers also know where online to find recorded videos, and also pictures sometimes of the people they impersonate in order to fool the victims, by recorded videos etc: How they the many scammers maybe both private persons and scam agencies and scam translate fee sites with their scam agencies etc are faking it, they are using these kind of programs they might obtain illegally by torrent download or buy online similair programs like these fools Skype and online messengers believing its a webcam when its a software witch allows to manipulate Skype and online messengers to show recorded videos as live video in Skype cam and online messangers live video feeds works with most online messengers to fake webcame live feeds: The scammers is using similair software as this as they might get downloaded for free by torrent site or, paid a small like onetime fee for using, to scam people worldwide with fake recorded videos: Sadly se: http://www.camersoft.com/fake-webcam.html " Support most Instant Messenger tool Skype fake webcam MSN fake webcam AIM fake webcam Yahoo fake webcam" " Camersoft Fake Webcam Camersoft Fake Webcam is professional webcam simulation software, which could works like a real webcam and you could select it as your default webcam when you have a video chat. You could also play a video to webcam or set the video as your webcam image even you donot have a real webcam device. This fake webcam enable you to add effects to the video image during the call, and support most popular Instant Messenger( IM ) . In addition, it provide video capture and video recorder functions so you could save the video on your PC." http://interfraud.org/nigerian_chat.htm(have advanced in extremely much tactics of today, never ever send money through Western Union to anyone you just meet through Internet sms phone etc, best never send money to untrusted sources ever, and you be safe):
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Other date scams of the more ordinary sort, (never ever send money to anyone you do not know in reality, and never ever send money through Western Union ever, to anyone you only "meet" online, and never send money through Western Union to pay Lottery fees in order to collect a Lottery winning on a lottery you never bought any tickets from, email lottery scams or Nigeria letters etc... Some of these did repent, so there is hope even for some of the more honest few scammers, who can not live with their scamming lies in the long run but confess, and do the right thing, repay the money. And in some few cases, even get a real relationship with the victims, honest, confessed, the scamming parts, and stopped scam people, and repaying back the money etc. Very intresting watch, lets pray all who do evil, repent and do right in the end and start live Biblically daily in love for Christ, Gods Son, in daily repentive state, and repents and do right things, as in this documentary video etc):
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DATE SCAMS ALSO HELPS FUNDS TERRORISTS GROUPS IN SOME CASES.... (ALSO APPLIES ON SCAMMERS ON DATE SITES, AND PROBERLY SCAM DATE AGENCIES WITH THEIR SCAM PRODATE WORKING AGENCY GIRLS, IN THAT CASES MAFIA CONNECTION PROBERLY AND NOT TERRORIST CONNECTION, BUT DIFFRENCE BETWEEN MAFIA AND TERRORIST, MIGHT BE SLIM, AS BOTH ARE EVIL:
Fake profiles and lies at dating sites like Plenty of fish , Datehookup, OkCupid etc, however some other few Cupid sites is however seamingly overall good, but they can also have scammers, but then people can report them through site. Other few better Cupid sites, do not hopefully create fake profiles, it still seams to exist some good few ones, etc (However it does not mean all their profiles is fake, in those date scam sites video uploader meantioned, only that some or many profiles is fake however, of those date scam sites video uploader meantioned... Some useful tips in video how to avoid the scams and fake profiles at date sites generally think this could be applied):
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Why they do it the scam date sites, who often however have a small portions of profiles true, and honest, in order not to get caught, but still have many fake profiles, and dishonesdt profiles... Why they do it again: For this reason proberly: If the sites is not free, and cost money, it could be a way for the date scam sites, to lure men in, and earn money by these fake profiles of sexy hot to good looking girls. If it sounds or is too good to be true, it usually is... Personally know very little of these sites: Plenty of fish , Datehookup, OkCupid etc, but still chooses to list this, and warn other people Worldwide. Also if the free date sites is low on real girls profiles they also might do this:If the sites is free the reason why they create fake profiles, not sure, but of the date free scam sites must get income somewhere from, like from showing ads, and create fake profiles, well, give them customers that use the scam date free sites without women then, if they created fake profiles, and they then get income showing ads without the need of having many real women at the date scam free sites. However this is most likely not happening in to big of degree at the free date sites, that they create fake profiles, but, maybe it does, who knows for sure... Exist however still exist good few free date sites online, and also exist still good serious date sites that have low cost monthly, but never pay by translation fee per letter or be in date scam sites who do not allow men to get womens real contact details, of the scam date agencies... Its most likely surely a sign of the date scam. Internet Online dating is not only scam and dishonesty and bad, it do exist serious honest online date sites both free and those that cost low cost monthly subscription, that allows exchange of contact details between man and female, and ability to report scammers if detected through site, and those serious sites removes that scammer immediately, if they ask you to send them money or similair, never ever send money to anyone you never meet in reality.
Generally advices most about persons that are date scammers, refers not so much about scam date agencies with their scam sites in this video (majority honest people who uses date sites applies only to human customers not date scam agencies with their scam sites and scam prodate girls as most of them is scams:
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More Generally advices most about persons that are date scammers or not serious in general, refers not so much about scam date agencies with their scam sites in this video (majority honest people who uses date sites applies only to human customers not date scam agencies with their scam sites and scam prodate girls as most of them is scams:
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Something not so related but still thinks its very vital to show the awful truth about this: Weekend Wives and Sex Tourists | Thai Women | Full Documentary (The sad but truthful story of a girl named Pla in video reflects many girls lives and People's lives over there sadly... People do care about you Pla even that you thought and said no one care about me. , People do care about you Pla and your memory and contribution showing the truth will live on forever, hopefully this will change things for the better for other People and girls and children etc over there etc):
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The sad but truthful story of a girl named Pla in video reflects many girls lives and People's lives over there sadly... People do care about you Pla even that you thought and said no one care about me. People do care about you Pla and your memory and contribution showing the truth will live on forever, hopefully this will change things for the better for other People and girls and children etc over there etc. More insights here, from the producer of the documentary Jordan Clark (also thanks to producer Jordan Clark bringing this to light, exposing the evils and unfairness of life in other places over there, for this thanks Pla and Producer Jordan Clark of the Documentary, this also applies around the World in general, but whats in this documentary is about girl Pla and how bad and hard it is in her country and their poor living conditions, and what they do almost are forced to do the girls and young ones in order to survive etc). Producer Jordan Clark had a platonic relationship with girl Pla, from over there: http://www.thethailandlife.com/interview-jordan-clark-producer-director-bangkok-girl
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The men who go to Ukraine looking for a wife then fly home alone and broke
Ukraine's internet romance industry is booming – despite the unrest. But after chatting online, travelling to Odessa and wooing women on flashy dates, most men fly home alone and far poorer. Are they unlucky in love, or have they been scammed?
A woman walks by a shop window displaying wedding gowns in Kiev, Ukraine. Photograph: /Gleb Garanich/Reuters
These are trying times for Odessa. After the annexation of Crimea, pro-Russian forces are stirring tension in this Black Sea port, and there are weekly standoffs between demonstrators who want to be part of Ukraine and those who want closer ties to Russia. But for all the political and economic chaos that has engulfed Ukraine in the past three months, one industry is still thriving: the internet romance trade.
The economies of several Ukrainian cities are boosted by the surreal and disingenuous online bride business, and Odessa is the biggest hub. It does not take long for a visitor to the city to stumble upon an "international date" – there are legions of western men in town meeting with young women they have met online, usually with the conversation facilitated by a translator. At internet cafes and homes across the city, thousands of women spend hours each day chatting to prospective suitors online.
There is nothing like the prospect of economic hardship to facilitate intercontinental liaisons, and so, far from business drying up in recent months, the romance and "bride" trade is booming. If anything, there are now more western men planning trips to Odessa than there were last year, when I accompanied a "romance tour" to Ukraine for a magazine story. I spent a week in Odessa with 29 men, all of them hoping to find a wife during their trip. They were mainly Americans, but there were also Brits, an Italian and a Saudi on the tour.
I went with a company called Anastasia International, which is no grimy basement operation, but a huge company with a projected revenue last year of $140m (£84m). It has thousands of women in Ukraine and across the world on its books, available for chats and in-person meetings with lonely bachelors across the world looking for a wife.
As internet dating has gone mainstream over the past decade, Anastasia is attempting to rebrand what was once called the "mail-order bride" industry as something modern and progressive. This is no longer the preserve of seedy and exploitative men seeking vulnerable women from impoverished backgrounds to work as a longterm sex slave, the marketing suggests. This is "international dating", a civilised way to find romance without borders.
Except that the branding is still somewhat disturbing. The men pay for every minute they chat online to a woman, something that it becomes clear is a dangerous part of the business model. The company claims on its website that finding a woman in Ukraine is like "dating a model, but with the values of your grandmother". The men featured in testimonials are sick of western women, whom they insist have forgotten "family values".
'This is game time' Armed with this information, I was fully expecting to spend a week being nauseated by odious men preying on vulnerable women, and there were certainly a few on the trip whose misogyny reached prize-winning levels. But the overall story was far more complex.
"This is game time and they're blowing me off," Todd told me, mystified, one day over breakfast. It took the 43-year-old bread-delivery man from Delaware several months of working overtime to be able to afford the tour to Ukraine; he often clocked seven night shifts a week in order to save the roughly $5,000 (£3,000) he paid to spend a week in Odessa, and hopefully find a wife.
Todd, who had not succeeded in finding his other half at home, had something of a compulsive side to his personality. He spent months methodically whittling down 1,500 possible brides on Anastasia's site to two top candidates. He then spent thousands of hours and thousands of dollars chatting with them online. Things were going swimmingly with both women. He assumed that his trip to Odessa would involve picking the one he liked most and taking her back with him. But when he arrived, neither of them answered his calls.
While Todd's expectations for what a Ukrainian bride might offer were patently unrealistic, it was troubling to watch him venture ever further down the path of disappointment. Many of the men on the tour were less sympathetic characters than Todd, but all of them were lonely. Some of them were disillusioned with dating scenes in the west, where women did not give them a look; others recovering from a divorce or the death of a spouse.
Another man I spent a lot of time with was Stephen, a 62-year-old from Texas, long-divorced, who was on his 11th trip to Ukraine with the desperate hope of finding a wife.
"I want a companion, because there are things I would like to do back home, but I don't want to do them alone," he told me. "I want to see the Grand Canyon, but I don't want to see it on my own. I'm tired of having nobody to share my life with."
Stephen ended up meeting a pianist named Elena on the tour. On date two she told him she thought he could be her soulmate. By the end of the week he was sure he had found his future life partner. It was an expensive week, with the dinners, taxis, and payment for a translator all adding up, but Stephen was delighted that he had found love.
But love in Odessa is not all it seems. Perhaps 10 years ago, the scenario had been what I imagined, with men swooping in, and women keen to swap the hard grind of poverty-stricken Ukraine for a new life in the US, even if it was a ramshackle house in a North Dakotan town or a sleepy midwestern farm, rather than a Manhattan penthouse or LA beachfront home.
Now, it seems, things are different. None of the men I became close to on my tour ended up in lasting relationships, and the majority appeared to fall victim to a number of sophisticated scams.
I left Stephen ready to propose, but two months later he told me by email that it had all unravelled. The woman let him know she needed more time before making a commitment, but suggested that he return to Odessa and continue their expensive platonic dates.
Todd did not even get to the date stage; in retrospect, perhaps a lucky escape. The women took their cut of cash for chatting with him, but did not answer his calls when he arrived. He later wrote to me: "It took me about a month to process what happened and get over it. I've decided to close that chapter in my life and move on. I am now concentrating on me and my life and to do things that make me a better person. And to pursue the other hopes and dreams that I have. Will I ever find my other half? One can only wonder. At least I can say I tried. If I die a bachelor, so be it."
'Emotional prostitution'
I was able to uncover exactly how the scams work due to a chance encounter with Alina, one of the women involved, who felt weighed down by her collusion in what she called "emotional prostitution". She explained the whole sordid array of techniques, from a light impersonalised online-chatting version to a full-service chauffeur-driven platinum fraud, where men are rinsed of cash for a full week in Odessa, thinking they are cementing a lifelong relationship while actually they are being strung along on platonic dates that end with them dispatched to the airport with heavy hearts and empty wallets. Many of them come with ridiculous expectations, of course, but I am not sure that anyone deserves this treatment.
For the women as well, although hundreds of them make a living from the scams, it is not an easy psychological burden to bear. Alina was evidence of that, and 29-year-old Chris, the tour's youngest member, found that when he confronted his date with accusations about the nature of the business, she burst into tears and said she felt awful, but needed the money to support her mother after her father had died. Other women were genuinely looking for a young and interesting partner and wanted to leave Ukraine, but spent hours chatting with elderly men in order to make money.
Anastasia International, while not directly colluding in the scams, runs a highly profitable business model that allows them to flourish. While real and lasting liaisons do occasionally form through the site, more often it only serves to increase the concentric circles of mistrust, disappointment and heartbreak for all involved. Anastasia insists that it weeds out scams whenever it finds them, and has banned some women from the site. It also says it will reimburse clients who fall victims to scams, and provides advice on how to avoid them.
Larry Cervantes, the company spokesman, wrote to me after the tour: "It's true that some of these guys are spending money they don't have. But guys go broke in the US chasing American women, as do Brits chasing Brits. So what's the difference? Throughout history men have pursued the unattainable, and throughout history they've made fools of themselves. How is this any different?"
But the difference, of course, is that the company is making a huge profit from the men making fools of themselves, and while many women are making money out of the schemes too, it is not clear that it is beneficial to them in the longer term.
Far from ending the practice, the recent unrest in Ukraine has only enhanced it. Alina told me that her friends working in the business are expecting several American men to arrive in the coming days, while the less discreetly named sugardaddyforme says it has seen record numbers of Ukrainian women sign up in recent months. The new Ukrainian government has rather a lot on its plate, but ending the trade in emotional exploitation is something they should tackle sooner rather than later.
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About Anastasiadate (Anastasiadate.com) reviews:
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No. AnastasiaDate is a scam all the way. They have fake profiles. Meaning that some of the women are married or totally unavailable. Surely not all. In fact, most women there are real. in that you can touch them. Many are not married. Some may not even have boyfriends. The point isn't that you don't see them married on VK or OK or whatever. The point is they are paid to be there. AnastasiaDate pays local agencies in Ukraine to provide women. Those agencies pay the women to talk to you. They pay by the letter, because you pay by the letter. The more letters a woman can get sent to her, the more money she gets. The same goes for chatting. The more men she gets into chat, the more money she receives. Every pay by letter site works in this fashion. That's why pay by letter sites need to be avoided at all costs. This corrupt industry won't learn unless they feel it in their pocket. They have lived high on the hog for over a decade. They have made millions at our expense. We complain about Russia, yet this corrupt industry is worth billions to Russia and Ukraine. They simply do not understand honesty and truth. The only thing they understand is losing profits. They could have built a sustainable business model. But they choose to lie, cheat, and steal. They built a model with deceit as its foundation. They may stop me gentlemen. I am only one man. But, this house is coming down. Nothing built on a lie can last.
Elena's Models used to be a good site, but in my experience they do not remove the profile of scammers even after they are reported with proof. I submitted evidence on Skype of a lady asking money for rent, but all they did was warn her. My conclusion is that they actually protect scammers these days."
I wasted many hours and some money on that site for several months. Here is the facts,
Non existent customer service
Scam women abound, but the bigger problem is when they are pointed out to customer service they do nothing about it. Can’t remove so many beautiful pictures or the men would complain.
Way more men than women, which they don’t tell you.
Many women are posted there but long ago became married, or no longer interested, or otherwise inactive. That’s why you can send 100 EOI and get two responses.
Terrible new website that is impossible to navigate,
It’s just not worth the trouble. Chances of you finding a true and honest girl are slim. But Elena will be glad to take your money.
Don’t buy her books either, they are a joke. Obvious information that cons be found on the web for free.
I am going to challenge my credit card charges with this company and if everyone did maybe they would go out of business or offer the service they claim.
Don’t waste your money.
P.S. I live in Sarasota Florida where they have an office address, but the street does not exist. Even the local police can’t find Elena’s office. Wonder why the secrecy."
"Elenas Models also has a racial set, prejudges against diffrent people, races...
Elenas Models recommends and books and advices, is nothing more then a quick buck. Some good info thow proberly, but not worth it, in the long run. Know this myself as member of the site Elenas Models (Elenasmodels.com)" About Elenas Models, what other people, say about them, and from an expert, rated best answer, from the people etc:
What FBI generally says about this, even they know about the date sites ... :
(refering to the scamming date sites Worldwide but especially to Ukraine known for most scamming, and from Nigeria with Nigeria letters, and also maybe some of Russia, however it exist good or better people there also outside scam agencies with their scam date sites with its scam girls to over 95 percent more or less etc):
"Millions of Americans visit online dating websites every year hoping to find a companion or even a soul mate. But today, on Valentine’s Day, we want to warn you that criminals use these sites, too, looking to turn the lonely and vulnerable into fast money through a variety of scams. These criminals—who also troll social media sites and chat rooms in search of romantic victims"
We have been working over 3 year as scam detective to protect people against date scams, working togheter with other investigators and detectives and so fourth: So we knows these thing.
We also help Law enforcement as informator of crimes mostly in Sweden, but also Worldwide, sence around 2004 maybe even a bit futher back, but to be sure around from 2003/2004 to now and forward etc. We have many years of experience dealings with many types of diffrents of crimes etc. God bless all. Not all USA girls or women is the same, some is good, and is great also to Marry, for the opposite sex, male etc: Some advices when it comes to marry the girl, we are not saying this applies always, but some truth to it, it has: http://www.westernwomensuck.com/2015/06/18/never-ever-marry-an-american-woman/ (Not all USA girls or women is the same, some is good, and is great also to Marry, for the opposite sex, male etc, but this article has also some vital truth to it).
This applies all places not just Ukraine or Russia this saying: Its very important to say this, just because some is bad, not all people in the countries meantioned Ukraine or Russia or any other country is bad.
Its very important we do not let the scams and date scam agencies with their date scam sites and individual date scammers etc and scams in general, get us down so we look down on whole countries etc: Generally speaking its important to say this also now it also exist many honest people in Ukraine and Russia etc, both men and girls. Where are they you say, hmm they are most likely outside any form or scams, outside scam date agencies with their scam sites, that pay by translate fee per letter scam, and video chat or chat scam by pay per minute, that also has tons of negative feedback and negative reviews, and many honest truthful complaints from many people Worldwide Online and maybe also Offline some has etc.
(However it exist other few good honest date sites Online also, that have low monthy subscriptions cost, with all included send as many messages as you want, no translation fees per letter, but all is included in the low monthly or quarterly, or yearly price etc, and free date sites exist honest few good ones, avoid pay by letter translation fee date sites, and date sites with low reputation or bad):
(All information shown of course regards to all Uadreams sites as Uadreams.com with all their other extensions... like Uadreams.de and Uadreams.es etc, however will not say this in every post, enough show at start and end, same goes for all other scam date agencies with their websites meantioned etc):
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by Marisa on Tue Feb 02, 2010 2:21 am
http://www.ualadys.com and 
It's far better to use free sites like this one, or paying sites where you can correspond directly (without any agency translation), share phone #, Skype, whatever. Only remember, scammers and sites like UA Dreams are fishing for clients on ALL sites. You, and we all, will just have to use our common sense and not buy into all we are told, no matter how beautiful the lady is 
Like Nick from this site once said 'be skeptical even if you are in bed with the lady'... 
. The agency is 100% SCAM. Be carefull.
http://myuadreamsexperience.blogspot.com/2009/11/04-september-2008-my-saviour.html
http://www.uadreams..x?id=2250 become Anastasia Ostapovich (has a boyfriend) 
Australia
This website setup involves countries known to be high risk
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After mails, chats and 2 meetings, I found her adress. But she NEVER answered !
I sent a gift at home, she thanks me but always through UADREAMS site and never with a private mail, although I wrote it with the gift.